bladerunner168 Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Has anyone tried to install a MOE PTS K grip on theirs? I tried last night and there was wobble....... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
emp3ror86 Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 I broke two PTS sights this weekend just by screwing them on. (Customer support doesn't wanna answer) Now I know to never buy any of their grips, too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 (edited) Just to be clear, you broke two products over the WEEKEND and the company that made them didn't get back to you over their WEEKEND? Do you work weekends? Most people don't you know. And it can take any company days to weeks to get back to customers regarding warranty issues. It happens all the time with any industry. I know it's frustrating when something you buy breaks, but not all companies have a dozen sales staff waiting on the line to address any issue. Issues are addressed by one or two people in the order that they are received. It's not perfect, but that's reality. Regarding the sights, is it possible you over tightened/over torqued them on when installing them? I've seen that happen to real sights too. If you exceed the foot pounds / torque specs the material was designed for ... that unfortunately would fall into the category of user error. If installed properly and they broke due to a manufacturer's defect and it happened within 90 days of purchase, that's a definite warranty issue. Bladerunner: that's weird. I've installed a few RS grips on mine without any issue. Are you using the LM4's OEM screw? It's possible that the new screw is too long and therefore the grip isn't fully attached. Perhaps you need some washers between the screw and grip to act as spacers? Can you elaborate on the wobble? Edited July 16, 2012 by uscmCorps 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Finbarqs Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Probably because I have a 20% coupon code. also, the last time I drove to either one of those places down bellow, we were standing in line for almost 2 hours. Plus, I had my 3 year old toddler running around the store with my poor wife trying to keep up. With Kali gas prices, shipping is cheaper. In all honestly, I'm quite excited about this platform. I believe it to be a progression. I own quite a few Magna & WE Techs M4s so I'm not biased. It will be very interesting what aftermarket and upgrade parts will be available for this platform. Although that 3 piece upper really needs to go. I think this platform is a great platform because of it's gas efficiency. But other than that, we just need other manufacturers to adopt this platform! But oh well, i'll just stick to my gas non-efficient magna guns (my 2 Inokatsu's) and call it a day once everything is done... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
emp3ror86 Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 It was just my frustration and disappointment I expressed in the wrong place and method which I am sorry for. According to my experiences with HK customer support, I am pretty much left with two broken original PTS sights. (I really would like to apologize to Magpul PTS in the end). I thought I bought quality products. I was not forcing it, I have built and repaired a few AEGs and GBBs before. The first time I installed them they could take it. After I broke the first one the second sight broke so easily like it was made of cheap plastic. I was paying close attention and the line between breaking it and securing tightly just went gone. Or so small that my muscle control was not good enough to it. Which would be funny because I repair much more fragile stuff at work. Sorry for the off. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bladerunner168 Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Corps - it wobbles from side to side, I've tried the new screw, old screw, with and without washers.....tis weird. It's forced my hand.....gonna have to buy some RS stuff now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brigg Posted July 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 Ive noticed that real steel stock pistol grips seem to be a slight bit too narrow for the LM4. they will attach and fit snug, but they don't sit flush with the receiver, which is a bit annoying since the KWA ones feel slightly off. I suppose I can deal with it though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greatwatermelon Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Ive noticed that real steel stock pistol grips seem to be a slight bit too narrow for the LM4. they will attach and fit snug, but they don't sit flush with the receiver, which is a bit annoying since the KWA ones feel slightly off. I suppose I can deal with it though. What grip are you using? All the LM4's I have been seeing with real AR pistol grips, have been flushed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 What grip are you using? All the LM4's I have been seeing with real AR pistol grips, have been flushed. This. I prefer tight than not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Finbarqs Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Funny thing, thought everybody should know this: I just popped in an EB mag into a Ruger AR15 and it locked!! And the Ruger upper fitting Inokatsu lower(with the bolt catch mod) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Finbarqs Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Funny thing, thought everybody should know this: I just popped in an EB mag into a Ruger AR15 and it locked!! And the Ruger upper fitting Inokatsu lower(with the bolt catch mod) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brigg Posted July 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 What grip are you using? All the LM4's I have been seeing with real AR pistol grips, have been flushed. Its a regular standard AR15 pistol grip. nothing special about it. But the grip itself is not quite as wide as the lower receiver on the LM4, so theres a bit of a step or space and it doesnt quite sit right. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
akiraspeedstar Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 Step by step on what you need to do, if you want to modify the bolt catch to engage better and how to enable a function with the charging handle that KWA forgot about. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 Fantastic!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hwagan Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 Step by step on what you need to do, if you want to modify the bolt catch to engage better and how to enable a function with the charging handle that KWA forgot about. Firstly, that's a fantastically produced video, exceptionally well presented, very simple to follow and the intro is quite frankly badass. Secondly, seeing the ease of disassembly as well as the simplicity of the mod has really made me consider whether or not I should move away from the WA system and re-invest in the KWA.. I've been lurking in this thread, and the more I'm reading it, the more I'm beginning to think it'd be a damn fine idea. Has anyone got any news or rumours on a trademarked lower receiver? That and the sheer love of my gun are about the only two things holding me back... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bladerunner168 Posted August 13, 2012 Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 (edited) Nice mod, shame I don't have the tools Has anyone got any news or rumours on a trademarked lower receiver? Gunsmodify is coming out with receivers for the KSC M4 which may also fit the KWA. Edited August 13, 2012 by bladerunner168 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hwagan Posted August 13, 2012 Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 Oooooh, awesome news. I'll let someone else be the guinea pig before I start making a big decision though! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bladerunner168 Posted August 13, 2012 Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 I'm hoping that it'll be ready in September but I think it'll just be a Colt trademarked one. Anyways, mine is nearly sorted, Guarder 6.02 inner barrel, A+ hop rubber, RA Tech NPAS installed, just need a place with a bit of range to test trajectory. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
emp3ror86 Posted August 13, 2012 Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 Knowing that the buffer tube of the KWA one is milspec while the KSC one is not, I think the Gunsmodify receiver will not be compatible with the KWA LM4. At least not with the stock tube. But I hope that they will make it milspec with a stock tube... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted August 13, 2012 Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 Additionally, for those of us in the US, the gunsmodify receiver may not be ATF approved and importation of one (if found to be classified as such) may be illegal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rvlyssup Posted August 13, 2012 Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 Non-ATF approved items come through all the time. With that said, its still a gamble and is a matter of who wants to take it. There are quite a few non-ATF approved Asian version KWA Magpul editions floating around out there. If anything, I'd be curious to know what are the diffences between the two. What that Magpul Edition needs is either a MUR or Noveske upper. I'd then be all over it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted August 13, 2012 Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 The US Customs seizing copyright infringing items inbound into the USA is one thing. And is definitely a gamble. Them seizing non-ATF approved items that they have classified as illegal importation of firearms (regardless of our intended end use) is a risk on another level. I just worry about the day they may decide to escalate matters beyond seizure ... like fines or worse. Sounds extreme, but in this US political climate around gun control, and especially given recent events, it wouldn't shock me in the least. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer750 Posted August 13, 2012 Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 I recently purchased my KWA LM4 PTR (the Magpul version) and after only a few mags worth of use, I have noticed a large amount of the paint on the inside of the upper receiver to have been scraped off due to bolt movement. Should I be concerned about this? Or is this normal for the KWA GBBRs? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aznriptide859 Posted August 13, 2012 Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 I would think its normal...KWA's paint finish has never been the best. All my Glocks in the past have had interior paint and/or mag paint wear off pretty quickly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted August 13, 2012 Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 And if you're still concerned, call KWA's customer service: http://kwausa.com/customer-service/contact Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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