emp3ror86 Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 Okay, latest free float wonder from Madbull who is well known of off-spec rails. Official site: http://madbull.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=449 Finally a normal box! I had 3 Madbull rails (RISII, 2x MK18s) previously and all of them had boxes just large enough to fit the ris into it. Also some development regarding safe packaging. Here is what it looks like in daylight. (That is the hand of my girlfriend, she took some of the pictures.) The inner nut can be seen that is made of steel. There is no visible solution to block the usage of a gas tube. I could not try to fit one yet. Rail panels and barrel nut. Screws. All of them have got hex head so some hex headed screwdiver is necessary to install it. (Two screws to rail panels are missing from the picture) Materials: Steel: barrel nut, nut inside the tube, screws and mouting parts. Aluminium: tube, rail panels. One of these tools are enough to mount and tighten the barrel nut: Barrel nut. Where scratches can be seen that is where the screws tighten the tube. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
emp3ror86 Posted July 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 Mounted to a KSC M4 GBBR which is TM spec. No modification were necessary. Pictures about the tube: You can see a small screw. Some imperfections on the coating. A casting imperfection can be seen on the nut. Tube mounted: It just fits this nice without any problem. But unfortunately it is a bit higher. Rail panels: Rail panels fit very nice. Off-spec: Rail panels measure from 20.85 to 20.93 mm. The tube is worse. My benchmark is a Surefire light. It can be mounted to the smaller panels without problems. But not on the tube unfortunately. Impression, thoughts: Two words: light and good. I like its mounting method the most. Really good, the four small hex screws tighten it to the receiver without any gap. I use an AFG but for this handguard even that is not necessary. It is really just a quick review so ask if you want to know something about it! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
intinerious Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 Hm. I'm not sure if Madbull is deliberately doing this kinda ###### with the off-spec rails but it's really, REALLY annoying when having it in spec and flush with the receiver-top is what the handguard/RIS is designed for in the first place... Whether it's Madbull deliberately doing it due to legal issues or they just SUCK at doing CAD files for something that already exists and can def. get their hands on it's just wrong on so many levels. I mean with the MFR rail...the top rail is probably the one that gets used most and they had to raise it by an mm or two off-spec (I'm assuming the KSC/TM spec is RS spec'd?)...WHY!? The top rail is the one that I think everyone will use the most (for PEQs, BUIS, whatever) and they mess that one up. They mess EVERYTHING up, and since they hold the DD license, they can do it without competition to challenge it's quality since no other manufacturers will make it. Regardless, very very nice review and the pics were very well taken I hope you don't mind the off-spec-ness of the rail I'm going crazy just looking at the pics and I don't even have one Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 Nice review work emp3ror. Crying shame about madbull's (yet again) significant lack of quality. Over 21mm when ACM rails get it right is truly shocking from a company that apparently prides themselves on the high standards of the products they sell. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
emp3ror86 Posted July 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 I vote to the legal issues theory, if they can make such a nice product than I am pretty sure they could make it on-spec. All of my DD rails from Madbull were offspec but this one is much better than the RIS IIs. At least I can mount my light to this one. Thanks and welcome. I would not mind it being off-spec if the gun I ordered this one for were not sold. And the other gun of mine has got a RIS I would never replace. It was more of an impulse buy btw. But one day if I build a carbine or recce, I am going to use this handguard in 12 inch length. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 So is that the 9" rail on a 10.5 barrel? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
emp3ror86 Posted July 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 Exactly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hwagan Posted July 5, 2012 Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 Nice review man, shame about the rail size but at least they've improved on it a bit... Whereabouts are the 'For airsoft only' markings? Anywhere visible when the rail is installed? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
emp3ror86 Posted July 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 Only on the box. The gas tube is not blocked either. Strange they could get rid of such markings but not making it on spec... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Philbucknall Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 I have the 12" version on my celcius with a 14.5" barrel. I think they are very nice and lighten the gun but still give you some rail for mounting accessories. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
emp3ror86 Posted July 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 Looks really cool! I think this is simply the best RIS Madbull ever made. I must get another M4 damn it... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
emp3ror86 Posted July 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2012 (edited) I found out where is the gas tube restriction. The problem with it, unless one has got a fine device and steady hand to drill steel ,it can not be removed. I will take pictures soon. Edited July 28, 2012 by emp3ror86 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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