RacingManiac Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 If HK3 is WE, they are already making that profit. If HK3 buys bulk of WE and engrave them, they are already making that profit....so WE is already making money on these with OR without trades.... Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 Some new videos; WE M&P submerged in water and then test fired (god knows why) WE M&P test fire @ soda cans (pretty decent plinking here!) WE M&P hammer/sear burst / full auto issue caught on tape http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1ApwcvRHss&feature=player_detailpage Fix is available at arms-cool, look backwards in this thread or check the review thread for a solution should this happen to your WE M&P. Approx 1 week until I get mine and then it's video time mother*fruitcage*ers ! Link to post Share on other sites
kenxin Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 Hmm, the man with the full auto issue is japanese, so I don't know if he imported one as soon as they got out or if WE is exporting M&Ps with this defect still. Man that slide is slugish with HFC152 ... Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted November 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 Water? Well that is a thorough test but I can't see many airsofters wanting to put there gun in water and then use it. As for the guy in those top two videos, does he not worry about eye protection or about others seeing into his rather low walled back yard? Or is that just me looking at a country where airsoft isn't treated with abuse and lies about the damage it will cause to the country? As for the burst firing, WE do seem to have issues with this in some of their guns, it seems odd to me that such an issue has plagued them since day one and yet they have never seemed to find a reliable pre-production fix? Still it is good to hear that they are looking into it, maybe they have thought 'hey if we actually fix the bits that don't work instead of knocking out another gun people might trust us more', I know I would for one. 'FireKnife' Link to post Share on other sites
kenxin Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 As for the burst firing, WE do seem to have issues with this in some of their guns, it seems odd to me that such an issue has plagued them since day one and yet they have never seemed to find a reliable pre-production fix? Still it is good to hear that they are looking into it, maybe they have thought 'hey if we actually fix the bits that don't work instead of knocking out another gun people might trust us more', I know I would for one. 'FireKnife' This particular instance stems from a defect in the piece that holds the hammer down. The cast is poor and that piece somehow ended up rounded instead of flat , thus sometimes causing 3-burst or full auto. Supposedly they fixed that in their 2nd run of M&Ps and onward. Link to post Share on other sites
Azubi Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 Where are people buying spare mags from? I might be being a complete biff but I believe they are pistol specific mags and the places I have checked that sell the gun don't seem to sell the mags. Am I missing something? Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 There are no spare magazines released for this pistol yet. Review video, in Thai unfortunatly maybe just the video alone can give you an idea, or if someone can give a summarized translation. Link to post Share on other sites
Azubi Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 Ha, that will probably why I can't find any then! Puts me right off though, I tend to run pistols as primaries. Maybe when spare mags get released I will buy one. Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 FYI I messaged Papago on Facebook but no reply, I suspect he doesn't speak English or has no interest in international clientel. Shame. Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted November 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 This particular instance stems from a defect in the piece that holds the hammer down. The cast is poor and that piece somehow ended up rounded instead of flat , thus sometimes causing 3-burst or full auto. Supposedly they fixed that in their 2nd run of M&Ps and onward. Like I say good to hear they are fixing it, but it can also be seen as a case of using purchasers as the testers, which if you back them up and say 'hey it broke, here is a new gun and thanks for your time' that isn't so bad. Things like this show that WE has changed a fair bit from the old days of guns that broke out of the box and the response was basically who cares. Now if only they could get the pistols right, still too hit and miss for me with the ones I have tried but then no-one is perfect . As for spare mags, release a gun without readily available spare mags? Silly idea, surely for every single gun you release it would make sense to make at least 2-3 spares a piece? 'FireKnife' Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 I asked the guy in the comments of the Thai video for an English review and he replied back saying he will make one tomorrow. Cool ! Link to post Share on other sites
carabinero Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 Look what I've found today: http://www.ebairsoft.com/t-we-gbb-24-rds-magazine-for-mp-gbb-p-6577.html Good price too!! Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 Nice, so they are on their way out to shops I assume. Woop ! Link to post Share on other sites
-wigs- Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 not that i will ever buy from eb again but the have spare mags Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 EBB has them? good, it means its just a matter of time the other shops do it too. Now, where are those CO2 mags, WE? ¬_¬ Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 Sorry for dragging this up, but what do you mean with huge gap between slide and frame? I looked at alot of pics of the real one and the WE almost looks to have better fit or equal? Maybe the shadows in the airsoft pics make it look worse. The mold lines are there on the RS as well but far more faint so yeah... I know you have one so you might know better but just curious exaclty which part you mean. Never got around to answering this question. My comment was more in regards to the gap between the slide and frame at the front of the gun. But I went and looked at my M&Ps and I noticed there was a fair amount of wiggle room even on those so I take that particular comment back. Here's a pic of a few of my (dirty) M&Ps and as you can see, the gap is definitely there. The tan still looks off IMO though. Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 OK thanks for the answer and correction! I'm hearing mixed info on the tan color. I think it needs to be shot in proper light and with good white balance, I will do that once I get mine so you can judge from a calibrated picture. I think it's closer than it looks in most pics, but we shall find out Link to post Share on other sites
Philbucknall Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 Look what I've found today: http://www.ebairsoft.com/t-we-gbb-24-rds-magazine-for-mp-gbb-p-6577.html Good price too!! I'll take two of those . Hope they're here quick! I've got a game next weekend. Link to post Share on other sites
-wigs- Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 Last time I bought from eb a month went by before they told me the item was out of stock. I ended up having to PayPal dispute the charges to get my money. I'd say wait till other shops get them Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 I'll take two of those . Hope they're here quick! I've got a game next weekend. If you want something quick, EBB is not what you are looking for, asking them to be quick is like asking the sea to break in half. I wouldnt be surprised if they didnt have them in stock yet, maybe close to have them, but not yet, so they will take your money and wait until they can ship them. Regular practice from them, to be honest Link to post Share on other sites
Philbucknall Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 Hmmm, I regularly order from them and last order arrived in 5 days. We shall see. If not never mind I have a feeling it won't be great GBB weather next weekend anyway seeing as its only 3c here ATM. Link to post Share on other sites
Philbucknall Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 OK thanks for the answer and correction! I'm hearing mixed info on the tan color. I think it needs to be shot in proper light and with good white balance, I will do that once I get mine so you can judge from a calibrated picture. I think it's closer than it looks in most pics, but we shall find out My tan one will be here next week so I'll do a few photos when it arrives Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 Challenge accepted! We shall see who's tan M&P arrives first my good sir! Allthough I think you will win But, do you know how to exposure, color and white balance calibrate/correct a photo properly ? Link to post Share on other sites
-wigs- Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 My tan one came yesterday, I'll have pics and initial thoughts later. Right now I'm driving to my local cqb field Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 Some new pics of the M&P9C, should be close to release now; http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=zh-CN&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.arms-cool.net%2Fforum%2Fthread-123935-1-1.html Link to post Share on other sites
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