Ghost_Rider Posted June 29, 2005 Report Share Posted June 29, 2005 Grow a beard! Thats' my loadout right there, as soon as I get the body armour off titus.... Link to post Share on other sites
Machineabuse Posted June 29, 2005 Report Share Posted June 29, 2005 I believe the rule of civcons and camo is that it misidentifies you as a part of specific forces. Which makes for misunderstandings. :/ However if you're a Merc, then anywho goes. If I understand it professional civcons try to avoid being stigmatized as mercs Isn't that a photo of US SFGs in Afghanistan? Link to post Share on other sites
R22Master Posted June 30, 2005 Report Share Posted June 30, 2005 The only rule that applies to civilian contractors regarding dress / uniform is that they are not allowed to dress in a fashion that emulates any participating combatant force. i.e. A civvy contractor cannot dress as a US soldier if working in Iraq, although he can use aspects of their kit as long as it is clear to all sides that he is not in fact a participating US soldier. Link to post Share on other sites
Chimpy Posted June 30, 2005 Report Share Posted June 30, 2005 The only rule that applies to civilian contractors regarding dress / uniform is that they are not allowed to dress in a fashion that emulates any participating combatant force. i.e. A civvy contractor cannot dress as a US soldier if working in Iraq, although he can use aspects of their kit as long as it is clear to all sides that he is not in fact a participating US soldier. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thats rollocks, PMCs extend far beyond the percieved security guys. Most of those that work in and around US bases (i.e. a huge percentage of non-military in Iraq) will wear DCUs. Primarily doing so to blend in (i.e. so they look like any other person on base, a US soldier). Where you might not want to be readily identifiable is working a PSD cruising around in Iraq. Wearing US camo makes you a target to insurgents (as does western dress and giant SUVs anyway), wearing any other camo means the Joe armed with the Mk.19 or 50cal you're rolling up behind at 120km/h could mistake you for an insurgent and blat you. The Force Protection and Convoy guys have less of a need, one being a giant fixed target, the other being a giant moving target. As evidenced by this photograph of a contractor wearing GROM trousers. Chris Neidrich, Blackwater Contractor, RIP Link to post Share on other sites
Gene Posted June 30, 2005 Report Share Posted June 30, 2005 Nice, Aimpoint. Link to post Share on other sites
Frangible Posted June 30, 2005 Report Share Posted June 30, 2005 Isn't that a photo of US SFGs in Afghanistan? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes I believe you're right.. I also recall seeing old beardface in Iraq too (on the news, I'm 99.9% certain it was him. I remember saying to a mate: "Since when did ZZ Top join US SF?" to which he replied "Nah, it's Gimli with an M4..") Cheers F Link to post Share on other sites
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Frangible Posted June 30, 2005 Report Share Posted June 30, 2005 Of course Islamic cultures generally associate(d) facial hair with masculine power, one reason why the Templars and other Christian military orders grew beards in the Middle Ages.. So, it could well be a hearts & minds kind of thing that the SF lads are adopting.. or just a bit of soap-dodging caused by living rough on ops.. Or a combination of both Cheers F Link to post Share on other sites
Chimpy Posted June 30, 2005 Report Share Posted June 30, 2005 Of course Islamic cultures generally associate(d) facial hair with masculine power, one reason why the Templars and other Christian military orders grew beards in the Middle Ages.. So, it could well be a hearts & minds kind of thing that the SF lads are adopting.. or just a bit of soap-dodging caused by living rough on ops.. Or a combination of both Cheers F <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Bingo. Link to post Share on other sites
aimpoint Posted June 30, 2005 Report Share Posted June 30, 2005 Nice, Aimpoint. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> thank you Link to post Share on other sites
xRAZERx Posted June 30, 2005 Report Share Posted June 30, 2005 Yeah I like it Aimpoint. I looked at it and thought "hey, he's wearing Havocs vest" You coming to AG? Link to post Share on other sites
aimpoint Posted June 30, 2005 Report Share Posted June 30, 2005 Yeah I like it Aimpoint. I looked at it and thought "hey, he's wearing Havocs vest" You coming to AG? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> thanks mate i was wondering who'd be first to say that im not sure yet hope so depends if my dad is still going Link to post Share on other sites
SEAL_Sniper Posted June 30, 2005 Report Share Posted June 30, 2005 ARSES could very well be the best idea I've heard in a long time... Count me in! Link to post Share on other sites
M1911A2 guy Posted July 1, 2005 Report Share Posted July 1, 2005 thanks mate i was wondering who'd be first to say that im not sure yet hope so depends if my dad is still going <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Speaking of which, what MOLLE vest is that and does it come in black? Link to post Share on other sites
aimpoint Posted July 1, 2005 Report Share Posted July 1, 2005 its a tt plate carrier,not sure about the colour,have a look on optac's site should be able to find out on there Link to post Share on other sites
Gene Posted July 1, 2005 Report Share Posted July 1, 2005 Having just seen Arnie's clothing line, I think THESE should be mandatory for ARSES. Link to post Share on other sites
SEAL_Sniper Posted July 1, 2005 Report Share Posted July 1, 2005 I beg to differ. Link to post Share on other sites
xRAZERx Posted July 1, 2005 Report Share Posted July 1, 2005 I really like the multicam hat. Apart from the HSGI logo and the little flag... Link to post Share on other sites
Gene Posted July 1, 2005 Report Share Posted July 1, 2005 I like it too, except for the multicam, hsgi logo and flag.... j/k the arnies one with all the velcro would be awesome. Link to post Share on other sites
Gene Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 Nice piccy there kevin. I'm not sure if anyone has done anything for this whole ARSES thing, but I've put in for a few quotes on patches. Looks like I'll have to buy like 100. but we'll see how that goes. Link to post Share on other sites
Ghost_Rider Posted July 12, 2005 Report Share Posted July 12, 2005 Arnie's Rapid Security Executive Solutions Has now, at least in the UK, become B.A.D.G.E.R. We're not sure what it stands for yet, but we're toying with a couple. Big Angry Dangerous Geardo Emergency Response? Bad Asses, Dangerous Girls, Enjoying Replicas? More to Follow. Link to post Share on other sites
Gene Posted July 12, 2005 Report Share Posted July 12, 2005 Since when? Where is this discussion? Why has this happened? Link to post Share on other sites
Ghost_Rider Posted July 12, 2005 Report Share Posted July 12, 2005 Since ArnieGeddon, in the Arniegeddon forum,, and because we can. We even have caps and badges in progress Link to post Share on other sites
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