harborne blue Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 I'm going to do something that I said I wouldn't do and get another boltie. I'm lucky in that I could stretch to a Marui or buy the Well clone plus some ACM steel upgrade bits. Simple question is which is the best option: is the Well VSR worth £100 or should I get the Marui. Also what are the ACM steel / upgrade bits like? http://www.acmgear.com/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=vsr-10&x=24&y=6 Tnx in advance sniper guys! Link to post Share on other sites
FTZ-WildeCard Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Are you going to upgrade it extensively? The nature of upgrading is that stock parts get replaced -- if you're going down this route, might as well get the JG or Well VSR clone. Link to post Share on other sites
harborne blue Posted October 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Thanks - the gun will be getting new sears, hop and spring / piston / guide so that it will hit 500 and be consistently accurate. The Well looks good at $80 + shipping + duty especially when it comes with a reasonable scope and bipod. I just can't believe that I'm buying another VSR... Only sold the last one in the Summer! Link to post Share on other sites
FTZ-WildeCard Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 If there's one thing I learnt about Airsoft in these few months is that you can never stop buying!! Well the main lure of the Marui is the hop, but if you're replacing that you'd be better off saving the difference in price over the clone for your upgrades. Sure the externals may be better on the Marui -- but that's not what you're about is it? Link to post Share on other sites
Baddbaz Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 A sniper rifle is only as good as its hop unit , you can put as much power in to it as you want , but it will all be a waste of time if its got a rubbish hop and can't hit anything accurately , my vote goes to the marui version , even standard at 290/ 300 fps it will outrange guns with more power ! Link to post Share on other sites
FTZ-WildeCard Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 He's going to replace the hop anyway. Link to post Share on other sites
Baddbaz Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Probably with a marui one !!! Link to post Share on other sites
FTZ-WildeCard Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 LOL .. Well, that I do not know. Link to post Share on other sites
Cohacq Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 But even if he's getting a marui hop it's still cheaper to get the Well/JG than paying almost 3 times as much for the TM... Link to post Share on other sites
Baddbaz Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 The trouble with well / warrior guns is the plastics are very weak compared to the stuff tm use . Also the tolerances and fit are very hit and miss with them ,. From experience I find if you buy cheap you will end up buying twice !! Link to post Share on other sites
FTZ-WildeCard Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 I think the point is baz, he's going to gut the thing anyway. I've not seen any reports of the clone bodies being weak -- if you have, then it'd probably be a good idea to post them on here for future reference. Link to post Share on other sites
scorch Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 I've worked on clone ones, and the tolerances tend to be just a shade out on certain things. Cylinder being an important one. Link to post Share on other sites
bladeofdeath3 Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 I own a Marui G-spec and my friend owned a JG Bar-10. I gutted most of my rifle with laylax aftermarket parts (all of the cylinder train and the barrel), Dangerwerx solid hop up arm, PDI W-hold bucking. He did nearly the same, except with all PDI parts. I don't know if he got a lemon, tolerances were just a little off, or poor installation but his rifle didn't quite work right. Some of his shots were off and the BBs would hook or curve depending. I also disassembled his rifle and reassembled it and it still didn't work quite right. Another big issue with his clone were the externals. After a few games and a little abuse, the stock broke at near the hand grip. He tripped during a game and kinda fell on his rifle. The rifle was split in 2 and his outer barrel was a little bent. Fortunately none of his internals were damaged because of the upgrades. While most of the stuff was more or less repairable, the rifles still have some issues. I guess the moral of the story is be very cautious if you buy a clone. Sometimes you get an ok rifle, but sometimes things can go terribly wrong... Link to post Share on other sites
Lyng Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 I have done about 20 diff vsr clones incl tm and if you dont have the money for the tm one, go for the JG. They are wery close to the tm, quality and tolerances and at 500 fps then most std things accept trigger and piston will be fine. JG hop housing is also wery good, the Well is not even close to go up there with those two. Link to post Share on other sites
FTZ-WildeCard Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 I think if you fell on any RIF bad enough that it split in half, then that's hardly the rifles fault. Link to post Share on other sites
Baddbaz Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 The well / warrior triggers are pretty weak compared to the marui . From experience they are prone to breaking/ cracking and even with the sears upgraded tend to still break when you up the power on them , also the standard bolts break and scour to easily for my liking . I know they are cheaper than the marui but it really does show in the long term , so to me the initial savings on the purchase price will soon be munched up in upgrade parts / repairs , so its a bit of a false economy to buy the well/ warrior versions , better to source a second hand tm and upgrade it !!! Link to post Share on other sites
Kenworth W900 Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 Harborne - two things remain as true as they always have been here: Firstly, you get what you pay for. Secondly, get the Marui On a side note: Don't skimp on the sears - fork out for a 90 degree trigger mech. It'll be worth it in the end. Link to post Share on other sites
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