akiraspeedstar Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 Couldn't you add material to the arm on the magazine or bolt stop to enable the to contact one another? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
L2E Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 Couldn't you add material to the arm on the magazine or bolt stop to enable the to contact one another? I thought about adding jbweld to the bolt stop arm but then it would prematurely stop the bolt on the other mags. I would do the mod if it weren't for the sluggish full auto. Of course that could be due to the valve lock spring. I will try again using one that has the valve lock removed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Finbarqs Posted January 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 My ghk's won't lock back at all... Don't know if its because I have co2 but just tried 4 ghk co2's with no lock. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
L2E Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 Remove the upper from the lower, insert empty GHK C02 mag into magwell and observe the bolt lock. What is happening with the bolt lock arm? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cavapanther Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 L2E, I'm in the same boat. Having tons of pro win and a viper, I'm looking to swap out whatever necessary to get it working. I didn't notice any difference between EB and pro win except the pro win doesn't lock back. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
L2E Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 L2E, I'm in the same boat. Having tons of pro win and a viper, I'm looking to swap out whatever necessary to get it working. I didn't notice any difference between EB and pro win except the pro win doesn't lock back. Honestly, I am having a hard time deciding what path to go on this one. On one hand I have a ton of ProWin's but on the other hand my Viper runs like a beast on GHK C02 mags. I have 6 C02 mags so maybe I will sell the ProWin's and buy more C02. Or I use the ProWin's as backup and just have to pay attention to report of the muzzle signaling dry firing. I definately don't want to add material to the bottom of the bolt catch arm as that would then cause premature locking back on the GHK and EB mags. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
royami Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 Hey L2E, did you bought your viper on this site http://www.bbdragon.com.tw/index.php ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
L2E Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 Hey L2E, did you bought your viper on this site http://www.bbdragon.com.tw/index.php ? Yes, bbdragon is a very good store to order from and since I am in USA it is the only place to order since Viper will not sell to USA. eHobby also sells Viper replicas but they are the 2011 version not the 2012 version. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
royami Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 Thanks for information. I suppose that your rifle works with GHK CO2 mags without any modification, am I right ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
L2E Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 Thanks for information. I suppose that your rifle works with GHK CO2 mags without any modification, am I right ? My Viper runs really good on C02 mags. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DesertFox Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 A buddy of mine just got one of the viper new sr-16s and he told me it locks back with his ghk co2 mags Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Finbarqs Posted January 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 Maybe they changed something on the sr16. I'll run ghk co2, it just wouldn't lock back Quote Link to post Share on other sites
L2E Posted January 24, 2013 Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 Nice: http://www.bbdragon.com.tw/product_info.php/products_id/3411 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TB-Stalker Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 I've placed an order with BBDragon for the Viper Tech M4A1 RAS version along with a few GHK CO2 mags. When they arrive I will let people know if they lock back or not. Don't hold your breath though as it may not be here/I wont be there for a few weeks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TB-Stalker Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 I have ordered myself a M4A1 RAS: http://www.bbdragon.com.tw/product_info.php/products_id/1547 As part of my build I have no need for the entire upper, if anyone want's this I will be selling it, brand new. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Finbarqs Posted January 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 Why didn't you get the Colt trades? If you GHK CO2 locks back, i'll be insanely jealous... Funny thing, a member on GGi has the 2011, and GHK doesn't lock back for him either...I got mine from CWI, and he got his from ehobby asia. My hop up needs to be tweaked as well too... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
royami Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 Did CWI sends trademarks version to Europe/USA ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rvlyssup Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 (edited) Did CWI sends trademarks version to Europe/USA ? To the USA, yes they do... @ finbarqs, I have lock back on empty using G&P PMAGs & Beta Project EMAGs. I have GG GHKs that do not lock back but probably due to weak blow back & magazine follower spring. My GHKs have a lot of miles on them. Prowins sit too high and get stuck when pulling the CH handle back. These are for my Inokatsu anyways but I figured I'd try them out. I have a 2012 Viper Tech KAC trademarked SR16 SBR. EDIT: Spelling (damn mobile devices) Edited January 25, 2013 by rvlyssup Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TB-Stalker Posted January 26, 2013 Report Share Posted January 26, 2013 I can't remember where it was in there or if it was in the ares DSR ect thread, check Ivan le Fou's recent posts... err umm or maybe it was on another forum.. I'll find it for you when I don't have my wife giving me the evil eye... Mine does have colt trades Stalker. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kratisto Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 The lower that VIPER tries to replicate is a property marked Colt M16A1 lower that was made between 1968 and 1970. It even replicates the correct serial number range of 5,000,000. During this time, there is documented proof that Colt consistently used one type of hard coat anodization that resulted in a gray finish that we commonly refer to as "XM Gray". The finish on the steel components were also finished with this color - this is what is generally accepted as the "correct" color if the complete weapon was Colt assembled and proof marked from that era. Of course once it is issued, all bets are off. If I recall correctly, M16A1 lowers used by Crane to make Mk18s were refurbished and repainted in flat black, so in this case the color used by Viper is fine. Crane logo, black lower: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:US_Navy_070501-N-7029R-035_Gunner%5Ersquo,s_Mate_3rd_Class_Louie_Mitts_shoots_an_M-16_during_a_weapons_exercise_on_board_USS_Pearl_Harbor_%28LSD_52%29.jpg http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:060128-N-4374S-001.jpg No logo, grey lower: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:US_Navy_070311-N-0120A-048_Engineman_3rd_Class_David_Gomez-Hernandez,_assigned_to_dock_landing_ship_USS_Harpers_Ferry_%28LSD_49%29,_practices_watching_his_shipmates_background_during_a_non-compliant_Visit,_Board,_Search_and_Seizure.jpg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Finbarqs Posted January 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 the second picture could've been off balance. Youc an tell because the LMT finish looks the same as the body finish. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cavapanther Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 Has anyone figured out exactly the problem with viper and pro win? If the bolt catch is the only problem here, can it be fixed by replacing a prime's bolt catch? I don't really have any intention of keeping the EB mag that comes with the rifle, so if changing the catch made it not working with EB or any other mags I'm cool with that. p.s. My viper M4 came with viper's trade. I was thinking of ordering a set of viper receiver with colt trade from bbdragon.com.tw, but since I bought another ino 11 after the viper, right now I think I want something different, something other than Colt. As far as I'm concern, prime made several variation of receivers for AR15, and I beliebe they are the only manufacturer on par with Ino/Viper. Is it possible that I drop in my Viper 2011 M4 into a Prime receiver? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
L2E Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 http://www.gasguns.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=11505 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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