Isamu Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 Crossing my finguers TBH, I have been told these Max3 versions are quite improved over the first DTW batches, so I expect them to be fair more compatible than the old ones... if not, I will sell it second hand, should be pretty atractive with the 9" DD rail Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thatguy404 Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 Not disappointed with my gen2 regardless of jd being shady. Looks superb with the Samson rail on it. How long until it's delivered? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 I expect it to arrive next week or the next one if customs decides they fancy a piece of my monthly wallet, Even if they charge an extra, price is fine for a TW with a DD Rail preinstalled, well, or at least it is if it is reliable enough to shoot some thousand BBs downrange, I have been reading horror stories about almost any TW suffering from ludicrously fragile motors, and to be honest, I would hate to be forced to buy a new one, but I would probably switch to an ICS M4 and buy a whole new gun the next month, just for spares and upper building. The price on these Max3s is quite low compared even to regular/highend AEGs or not upgraded spares Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thatguy404 Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 That's what I figured. Similar price to a top tech g&g or something and ws worth an experiment... I will say the gearbox is quite loud, the "snap" it makes compared to my aegs but it's not really an issue. I'm going to drop a 2012 systema barrel and hop just to see if it's any better. No issues with my motor so far though. Very smooth, very quick. hope you enjoy it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 How much takes you a systema chamber and barrel? suposedly the new Max3 barrels are 6.03mm so changing the cushions and the nub for a sorbo/hirobo/siliconewiretubing should improve drastically the guns performance using 0.28g or 0.30g BBs, which are the ones I use right now and will use when I run out of 0.28gs. This, of course, is a mandatory upgrade for Systema hop ups too, so I dont think a Systema chamber would improve so much over a G&D Stock one. If they werent so pricey, I would invest in one of those rotatory hop up chambers, doesnt matter if it is good or bad, it is milles ahead more comfortable to adjust than the regular screwinmagwell. Hope the inside information the insider revealed some time ago was accurate and the clone is released soon, so i can keep spending moneyz on upper building Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LordElpus Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 don't know about the new ones, but i had a 100fps (+/- 10fps!) air leak between the cylinder nozzle and the end of the barrel. Swapped out hop and barrel for 2012 systema but not got a chance to test it, although stock barrel, + MAG adjuster had good range although shot scatter was not great, the large variance of fps didn't help. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 Holly canoly Lord Elpus, thats a BIG FPS difference... will look for some hints to solve the problem if I happen to suffer from it too. I heard that the MAG adjuster need some bedding and most people glue it in order to prevent it from spinning and work better Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LordElpus Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 no chance of it spinning on mine. the sleeve is slightly longer than the exposed pin so it grips the sides of the adjuster. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 I think that would make it spin less, but once the BB hits it and is propeled, chances are that friction will make it spin. To prevent it, something should fix it in place, like a couple of drops on the sides of the nub Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nath Posted October 19, 2013 Report Share Posted October 19, 2013 A&K are back in stock at Taiwangun.com with some spare A&K PTW mags. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Inq Eisenhorn Posted October 19, 2013 Report Share Posted October 19, 2013 A&K are back in stock at Taiwangun.com with some spare A&K PTW mags. Are you going to buy one? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nath Posted October 19, 2013 Report Share Posted October 19, 2013 If the stock will last till next month (my wallet is already bleeding hard due to car insurance), I think I actually will . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stan-O Posted October 19, 2013 Report Share Posted October 19, 2013 Would be cool if someone could compare current gen of G&D with A&K and Airo altogether. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thatguy404 Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 DTW owners; Can anyone confirm without a shadow of a doubt if the Vanaras "pmags" fit correctly.I've heard reports both ways, and JD say they fit but are incredibly tight.2 of my G&D magazines have broken on the rear of the magazine (the part that pushes the bolt stop)Which is getting annoying. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 I would like to know that for sure too, my DTW in en route and if I decide to keep it, the Vanaras are the cheapest mags I could find. Too bad the PMAGs are out of stock everywhere :'( Quote Link to post Share on other sites
daladzor Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 I have one of the earlier DTWs and Vanaras Pmags are incredibly tight fit in mine. Does require a fair bit of effort to remove them from the magwell.Isamu, according to their website RSOV have the Vanaras Pmags in stock ( sets of 4 or sets of 10 in black and in dark earth) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 Yes, vanaras is the RSov own brand, I meant the Magpul Pmags, Vanaras Mags are... well, not Pmags Thanks for the info dude, I will try to get hold of one and test it, although it will be terribly hard as TW are not easy to find in Spanish fields, much less vanaras ones... =( Worst case scenario some light filing in the magwell or mags should do the trick, right? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thatguy404 Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 I'm not shy to a bit of filing, had to do it with my Pmags for my 416.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 Silly question, anybody knows what this hop up is about? looks like a chamber able to take AEG barrels/buckings/nubs. Saw a couple of threads at the PTW forums and a swedish one, but is about 6 months old... Weird Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MooCow Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 it was originally designed for people that had a load of AEG barrels already or people that had their PTW platform running inner barrels with lengths they couldnt readily find a decent selection of lengths to go with it... (or if they're like me being cheap, probably want to cut cost down to achieve the accuracy they wanted. even though venturing into the PTW platform is never going to really get 'cheap' anyway) but on the point of accuracy, why would you use an AEG hop system when the PTW platform has a decent mechanism? also, FCC has recently released a new hop unit that you can adjust just like an AEG (no need to mag out and hex key it like the old days) will give that a spin on my PTW when it's back together (it's currently in pieces at the moment) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 Well, the FCC hop up is on my sights too, but this chamber sure is convenient, not because adjustment or being cheap (plenty of expensive AEG barrels out there) but because it can be Rhopped easily than a PTW one. certainly, there are mods like the sugru-mod but sugru is not strong enough to be a durable option like the silicone patch the RHop is. I think I would choose this KDM hop over a FCC, even more as both are the same price, +/- 100€ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MooCow Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 but the guys i spoke to FCC to today (just coincidence one of the guys there was going to help me open up my delta ring coz it wont budge with what i have at home, even with a wrench) said their new one is expected to have an MSRP of around US$90 (under 70 euros) and the korean one (you ARE talking about this one right? been a long day) at today's exchange rate makes that 96 euros. a bit different in price, although at your local stores or shipping costs will add up... then again, just saying 20 euros is a big difference for me in hop units unless the more expensive one is THAT much better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 70€? well, thats definetly good news, and although I agree, 20€ difference is quite a bit of money, what is still putting me off both chambers is the lack of information about them, the KDM one has been around since february and the FCC one a bit more. The KDM has no reviews, just some impressions on swedish and the FCC mixed coments of "good and bad" opinions without thorough and proper revisions, up to my knowledge and weak google fu I will keep an eye on both, but the AEG chamber is a bit more convenient for me. To be honest, I cant shake off me the feeling that the "for training weapons" tag is there just to justify the 100% price rise over the "fair price level" on anything TW related Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MooCow Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 totally understand... but if it's 20 euros difference, i'd rather stick with the PTW style hop mechanism because it just performs better. although regular AEG hop designs are advancing and they are getting pretty damn good... the one i got my hands on today from FCC is the one you can quick adjust just like an AEG hop could via the ejection port. i will have to let u know how that performs. but not sure what i can base the shots with... since it's not designed to shoot more accurate... just a convenience thing for adjustment. without going too much off topic here, i'll start a new thread later on once i start shooting my PTW to let u guys see how it fares. a mini-review will be due. hopefully not too long to keep you guys waiting... but it's the new one from fcc so not sure if other shops have it online in their shops yet. but we'll see. pm inbound re: good/bad reviews for the fcc. since i want to look out for that during my test/review Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 Looking forward that review mate. Once you start shooting, you can make some comparisons about your former setup, better, worse, same... every bit of info is welcome Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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