Inq Eisenhorn Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 Just a word of warning. I 'upgraded' my barrel and hop for a PTW barrel and hop unit, everything works well, BUT, beware of the DTW front sight post, it doesn't fit the PTW barrel. The front sight post from the DTW appears to be 'AEG' spec, and I can only assume the PTW has either their own (anal) spec or this is a 'real steel' vs AEG thing. I haven't tried one of gas blowback m4 sight posts because the only ones I would trust to match the PTW spec is my Inokatsu, and I'm not stripping that down for this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Inq Eisenhorn Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 AIRO ARMS PTW clone now available from Ehobbyasia........any early adopters Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nath Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 Hop up adjustment in the ejection port=aeg style m4 hop up chamber? Shame it has a plastic body thou. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Inq Eisenhorn Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 (edited) Hop up adjustment in the ejection port=aeg style m4 hop up chamber? Shame it has a plastic body thou. WHAT!?!?! The Airo Arms has a plastic body? Are you kidding? So it's an automatic fail!! So they make a gun about the same price as a DTW, with a plastic body.....that's gonna sell like hot cakes. Edit just read the and on ehobby correctly. Wow, seriously a plastic receiver.....fail? Edited June 26, 2013 by Inq Eisenhorn Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nath Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 I was still thinking that is a mistake, but ehobby did a magnet test in the video... body is plastic. On a gun priced on 350 bucks... Like for real?! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Inq Eisenhorn Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 I was still thinking that is a mistake, but ehobby did a magnet test in the video... body is plastic. On a gun priced on 350 bucks... Like for real?! To be honest, it makes life easier for me. I have 2 DTW's and now I'm glad I took the plunge. I know some people were waiting for A&K and Airo to produce something better, so far both appear to be fails. Most shops stocking the DTW have sold out on their stock...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Baddbaz Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 Still waiting for the g&g version to arrive with the gbox system Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Inq Eisenhorn Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 Still waiting for the g&g version to arrive with the gbox system Hmm...but that's not going to be a TW. Just a split gearbox AEG. Was thinking about it the other day, perfect electric airsoft gun would be, a combination of TW and TM Recoil tech.....at WE price point. Now, I'd buy that for a dollar. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NeoVeNoM Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 (edited) To be honest, it makes life easier for me. I have 2 DTW's and now I'm glad I took the plunge. I know some people were waiting for A&K and Airo to produce something better, so far both appear to be fails. Most shops stocking the DTW have sold out on their stock...... fails? because of the plastic body? the Airo kan be programmed for burst fire very easy. That is a plus selling point, don't know about D&G and A&K. Either way, the PTW platform is complex, so too cheap generally means fail. I am just going to save and do what I do with normal AEG's, simply build the damn thing from parts. Edited June 27, 2013 by NeoVeNoM Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Inq Eisenhorn Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 fails? because of the plastic body? the Airo kan be programmed for burst fire very easy. That is a plus selling point, don't know about D&G and A&K. Either way, the PTW platform is complex, so too cheap generally means fail. I am just going to save and do what I do with normal AEG's, simply build the damn thing from parts. Yes because of a plastic body. The whole point of a TW is that it's as close to 'real steel' as possible, going down the plastic fantastic route is a step away from 'real steel'. More importantly, for a plastic body I would expect to see a much greater price differential over its metal bodied counterparts, the price difference is marginal at best, that's why I say 'fail'. The fact that it's AEG compatible for hop units, therefore inner barrel, makes me wonder if it's AEG mag compatible? This might be a plus, but then again it's another step away from TW 'standards'. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jal3 Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 I was still thinking that is a mistake, but ehobby did a magnet test in the video... body is plastic. On a gun priced on 350 bucks... Like for real?! The magnet test is to display steel parts. Aluminium, which most receivers are made out of, does not react in a magnet test. That's not to say it's not plastic; it probably is when they write so. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nath Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 True to that, thanks for pointing that out . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stefanitsr Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 Furthermore, depending on formulation some stainless steels are not reacting to the magnet. Like the a&k ptw stock tube (definitely stainless steel), and a&k m24 cylinder (stainless too). IMHO the a&k is a much better made replica when compared to the DTW (have the DTW, friend has the a&k). Time will tell how long they going to last. IMHO there is no market for a plastic body PTW. PTWs are bought for realism... The magnet test is to display steel parts.Aluminium, which most receivers are made out of, does not react in a magnet test.That's not to say it's not plastic; it probably is when they write so. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Powerslave Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 Yeah stainless steel on the whole does not respond to magnets. Also I don't get why its used for stuff that is not supposed to be finished in stainless steel. The only point of it is cosmetic (and chemical in the case of cutlery) as far as I know. From my experience it is a lot weaker than even mild steel. Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Megalomaniac Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 Polymer lowers are all the rage( in more ways than one) these days. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stefanitsr Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 (edited) I am still saying the 'plastic receiver' string is a typo on ehobby webshop. Check the product video on ehobby in full hd and full screen, there are clear marks of alu cnc milling, slight paint chipping on the receiver, but for the most important part of the video when it shows the open receiver and pulls the cylinder check the upper receiver part where the back pin goes to the upper when closed. That's clearly has a metalic look. Over all, it looks to be slightly better than the a&k, because of the programmable burst electronics. Edited June 28, 2013 by stefanitsr Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Inq Eisenhorn Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 When a shop tells me it's selling apples, there's no WAY I'm buying their fruit hoping it's pears. I must admit, that would be a very strange design decision, but I'm not going to be the one to find it out. Re the A&K PTW, still no word on a new production run? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nath Posted June 29, 2013 Report Share Posted June 29, 2013 Had a word with guys from Gunfire, and they said that they will have it "soon", but no specific date was given . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jkerry2782 Posted July 11, 2013 Report Share Posted July 11, 2013 hi guys what brand of BBs are working best in the dtw and is hte nozzle on the dtw to sharp? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Inq Eisenhorn Posted July 11, 2013 Report Share Posted July 11, 2013 I use blaster 0.25g, they seem to work ok. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
daladzor Posted July 11, 2013 Report Share Posted July 11, 2013 I've been running Excell 0.23 and 0.25s with good results.Also had good results from Guarder 0.28s Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stefanitsr Posted July 12, 2013 Report Share Posted July 12, 2013 I use g&g bio .25 and bbone bio .28 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thatguy404 Posted July 12, 2013 Report Share Posted July 12, 2013 Question guys, can you get a vltor receiver set for the dtw, and rs rail systems should fit without modification right? Many thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Inq Eisenhorn Posted July 12, 2013 Report Share Posted July 12, 2013 Question guys, can you get a vltor receiver set for the dtw, and rs rail systems should fit without modification right? Many thanks Depends, like anything else, some things will for, others won't. I fitted a RIS from my WE CQBR and it fitted a treat. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jkerry2782 Posted July 13, 2013 Report Share Posted July 13, 2013 Hi has anyone else got an MDD hop unit, just fitted one but it very stiff and hard to adjust? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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