uscmCorps Posted August 22, 2013 Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 When I get back to the US I'll see if I can shim a RS front sight to fit and glue it in place. I'll do the same on the VFC. The WE definitely won't accept RS rear sights since it uses a TM style rear sight which has an elongated base which extends down into the upper slide. The VFC compact may be similar to their Stark Glocks which don't have that issue and can accommodate RS rear sights with a shim. Despite the Trades being light and shallow its still a nice better touch then no trades at all. Have been debating whether i should pick a M&P up or wait for a Marui Version I doubt even TM even knows when their M&P is coming out. The only GBB contenders for Full Size M&P at this time are the WE/HK3P and the VFC which *should* be out before year's end. Aside from the addition of trades, the HK3P also has a better finish than the regular WE version. How long that finish will last is anyone's guess. But if the gun proves decent but has bad paint I may consider getting it Cerakoted. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kratisto Posted August 22, 2013 Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 WE finally has released CO2 magazines for the M&P ( or "Big Bird" as they call it ): http://www.weairsoft.com/accessories/pistol/magazines/co2/mg-bb-001c-bb-series-co2-magazine-set-compatible-with-big-bird-and-little-bird-series.html 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vzx Posted August 22, 2013 Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 I did some comparison with RS M&P sights and it will not fit. Maybe if you find a sight with similar footprint to the OEM WE M&P front sight. Thanks. Might just have to glue it on or find a way to fill the gap. I'm not sure if there are any other sights with a similar shape as M&P sights. When I get back to the US I'll see if I can shim a RS front sight to fit and glue it in place. I'll do the same on the VFC. The WE definitely won't accept RS rear sights since it uses a TM style rear sight which has an elongated base which extends down into the upper slide. The VFC compact may be similar to their Stark Glocks which don't have that issue and can accommodate RS rear sights with a shim. Let me know how it goes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 (edited) This might be of interest to you regarding RS sights. Seems this guy put aftermarket sights (RS?) on his WE/HK3 M&P. Not much info nor pics of how it's done, but looks like it is possible; http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=http://www.arms-cool.net/forum/thread-141358-1-1.html&usg=ALkJrhj2wMTjFqw9oTLMe3MDOLSuS5re8A I also have to say, I like that setup ALOT. Considering just started playing the new Splinter Cell this kind of setup appeals to me. Edited August 23, 2013 by NonEx Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Norotor Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 Hmm that's interesting, shaved down his blowback housing. Look like RS glock suppressor sights. I'm pretty sure someone in this thread asked about mounting an RMR. I might have to try that for an at-home training piece to go along with my real steel M&P9 w/ RMR; 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vzx Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 (edited) That definitely looks interesting. Might be something to look into in the future. For now, I'm more interested in just getting front sights installed. His front sights look like it fit pretty well and then maybe glued into place. If the registration process to arms-cool isn't a pain, I may get on and ask how he installed all of that in my broken Chinese. If he does reply, I can't gaurantee a translation back into English. My reading is pretty poor. Edited August 23, 2013 by vzx 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WTF?Shane Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 Looks like a custom made set of sights. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 Could be something like the Ameriglo suppreessor sights. http://www.ameriglo.net/catalog/sights/pistol-sights/smith-wesson/black-sights/front-sights Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted September 4, 2013 Report Share Posted September 4, 2013 (edited) I don't think anyone has pointed this out yet. The WE base plates on the full size mags are undersized/too short front to back. WE basically took the measurement for the M&P compact base plate which is smaller and applied it to the full size base plate. Which also means the grip shape has been adjusted accordingly too. Here's the WE base plate next to my RS mag well: Edited September 4, 2013 by uscmCorps Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted September 4, 2013 Report Share Posted September 4, 2013 Doesn't the WE locking tool at the back have more material though? Which would kind of make up for the difference ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WTF?Shane Posted September 4, 2013 Report Share Posted September 4, 2013 Doesn't the WE locking tool at the back have more material though? Which would kind of make up for the difference ? Correcto! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vzx Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 Does anyone know whether this piece is essential to the gun's operation? It belongs in the side of the hammer assembly and it has been giving me light strikes. Without this piece, I can still shoot and do so without light strikes. I think the problem is that the slide isn't making enough contact with this piece to allow the release/strike pin to pull all the way back - so instead, the pin just get stuck there. If this thing doesn't do anything, I'm going to just leave it out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TnL Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 (edited) its what keeps gas releasing past the initial hammer strike, without it, the gun wont cycle with proper strength because the gas is cut off as soon as the slide starts to move Edited September 5, 2013 by TnL 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vzx Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 Thanks TnL. So I guess the only fix would be to apply epoxy or something to the slide so that it makes enough contact to fully push the pin down? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TnL Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 (edited) when this pin is pushed down it releases the valve striker and stops the gas, so I think that would make your problem worse Edited September 5, 2013 by TnL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vzx Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 Right now, this pin is preventing my valve striker from pulling all the way back, so it's causing like strikes. Any ideas if not modifying slides? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 I took a little time to recontour and stipple my HK3P M&P more like my real M&Ps. I decided to go with a combination between how Boresight Solutions and ATEiGuns do their frames. The one thing I've had trouble doing to my liking was cutting lines into the borders like how Boresight Solutions does his, so I omitted it (for now). The material WE used for the back straps are really gummy rubber and don't take stippling nearly as well as real back straps do. Texture close up: Pic of the trigger undercut. Also, all seam lines have been removed (WE seams were pretty bad): Texture comparison with my Boresight Solutions M&P frame: Pic of my M&P Full Size family (top to bottom: HK3P, Boresight/ATEi, ATEi): And for those who like the threaded barrel look: Oh, and I stand corrected regarding the base pad sizing. You guys were right. WE changed the measurements in the way you said (real M&P on the left, WE/HK3P on the right): 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WTF?Shane Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 (edited) I was troubleshooting my M&P today and a piece of metal fell out. It is the tab for the outer barrel that hooks onto the locking lug on the frame. The handgun doesn't cycle because the outer barrel will not go out of battery (not sure if that's the proper term). Anyone know where to source a spare or aftermarket outer barrel? Not really looking to buy a new upper or gun. I can try WE but they will direct me to Evike, and most likely not an item in stock as I am currently waiting on magazine baseplates from them. Edit: Awesome pics, uscmCorps! Edited September 22, 2013 by WTF?Shane 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 (edited) RATech have aftermarket outer barrels: http://en.ratech.com.tw/english/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=887:rag-we-118&catid=27&Itemid=119 That's the only option I've seen so far. If you bought it from Evike, perhaps you can convince them to send you a replacement (by gutting one of their inventory guns). Edit: Found the sale link on RATech's AST Store: http://www.airsofttaiwan.com/shop/goods.php?id=842 Edited September 22, 2013 by uscmCorps 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WTF?Shane Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 (edited) Thank you, sir. Edit: Aww. Not in stock. Might have to put on backorder. Edited September 22, 2013 by WTF?Shane Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Squad 701 Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 (edited) I'm really confused now, WE release an M&P that's basically defective due to Dodgy hammer-sear components, but they release a reinforced sear for an XDM ? So is this part for the XDM compatible with the M&P, and it's just WE's way of releasing a fix without admitting a fault with the original product ? Time to take apart an XDM to find out http://www.airsoftglobal.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=634_239&products_id=17463 Edited October 30, 2013 by Squad 701 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kratisto Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 New WE CO2 magazines: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.651554598201985.1073741831.302822296408552&type=3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TnL Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 (edited) I'm really confused now, WE release an M&P that's basically defective due to Dodgy hammer-sear components, but they release a reinforced sear for an XDM ? So is this part for the XDM compatible with the M&P, and it's just WE's way of releasing a fix without admitting a fault with the original product ? Time to take apart an XDM to find out http://www.airsoftglobal.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=634_239&products_id=17463 pretty sure the XDM and M&P sears are not compatible, but that sear looks identical to original doesnt look reinforced, maybe they extended the catch itself so itll wear out like the old one, but without such a fine trigger like it has stock it wont lose the hammer so easily Im having a run of steel sears made for my XDMs Edited October 30, 2013 by TnL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 Kratisto that was added 3 months ago It's available at AirsoftGlobal and some others I think. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kratisto Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 Damn, my time machine is broken again... ^^u Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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