Dr.Arnie Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 Hi chaps, This thread will contain the upcoming birth of the creation between myself and Keswick. History: - Basically the idea for this project came about after randomly coming across the REX some years back prior to my playing BF 3. After playing said game and thinking to myself I wonder, I put the idea towards Keswick and within mere hours the ideas came forth. Myself: - seasoned airsofter of 8 years, frequent daydreamer. Keswick: - airsofter for 1 year but a seasoned engineer with aerospace expertise. The gun: - As most of us will know, the MP412 REX is portrayed mainly within the games of battlefield. What isn’t widely known is that this gun has only existed as a prototype. From what little information exists it is of break action design, 4” barrel. The main details can be found on wiki: - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MP412_REX Or world.guns: - http://world.guns.ru/handguns/double-action-revolvers/rus/izhmeh-mp-412-e.html As this gun only exists as a prototype that few people have seen in person it proposed a problem. Using the only 4 pictures that exist we have got the design to as close as we can. It isn’t 100% accurate so please bare with us. Our decisions: - As we have jumped right in at the deep end there are a few unique features on this piece. Firstly it is a break action revolver, this design allows for the unique feature that we have created that if successful will make it the first reliable and skirmish able revolver allowing for fast reloads comparable to a semi-auto pistol. I wont say too much on this as it is a secret for now, for two reasons. One we aren’t sure that it will work so don’t want to get hopes up and two, if all goes according to plan we hope to produce this gun in batches in the future and don’t want to give anything away to any prying eyes. The things I shall reveal are that it will use standard marui hi-capa/1911 barrels and hop rubbers. The volume of gas per charge is just larger than that offered by a TM 4.3 Hi-capa agazine Stats: - Shots – 6 Modes – single/double action Power – gas Barrel length – 4” Materials – steel, polymer (to be decided) Hop up fixed (for the time being) Finish: - Blued steel This thread will be updated over the next year of the arnies build competition but machining will commence in the New Year and more pictures added as its built. Hope you all enjoy and look forward to updates. Please feel free to ask questions Bellow is an image of our REX. While not revealing too much its internals are complete and ready for manufacture: - http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b499/arnie202/rex%202/rexscreen1_zps46ec24e7.png Link to post Share on other sites
SpankyTheDolphin Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 This is relevant to my interests. Link to post Share on other sites
Dr.Arnie Posted December 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 and what interests be these? Link to post Share on other sites
Horsem4n Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 he wants one and so do i. oh, i have a couple of suggestions though. it wouod be cool if you could make it compatible with either wing gun revolver shells or marushin x cartriges so that we can stock up easily and with little cost compared to how much you could produce them for most likely. it would also be cool to be able to use moon clips (my prefered revolver reloading platform being that keeping all the shells together is a good idea on an airsoft platform). Link to post Share on other sites
Dr.Arnie Posted December 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 its so hard not to tell you how we have dont it! needless to say it wont be recieveing any standard shells. there is a reason for this that will be apparent in time. the reload system will be readily available for this system once completed. the main reason for this is the gas system we have designed. it doesnt use any previously used system as gas effiecency was what this gun was built around. you wont be disapointed i promise edit: - i apologise but im not sure why the image isnt displaying Link to post Share on other sites
tquilha Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 Most definitely interested, especially if it is compatible with win gun cartridges (already have a few...) Link to post Share on other sites
Horsem4n Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 if you're going for a tanaka style system, thats cool too. Link to post Share on other sites
Dr.Arnie Posted December 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 your getting closer, its similar to tanaka but not quite. sadly the tanaka system is patented :-P. thats why weve had to go down this new route. as soon as its made and we know it works i shall say more, that or ill get bored and blab lol Link to post Share on other sites
Horsem4n Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 tanaka's system is patented only in japan afaik. either way though, if the system you guys designed makes you happy, im sure it will be cool. cant wait to see more! Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted December 26, 2012 Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 Fast reloads without shells? I'm guessing you're cooking up a kind of moon clip that holds only bbs. Link to post Share on other sites
SpankyTheDolphin Posted December 26, 2012 Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 and what interests be these? My wallet, to be specific. Link to post Share on other sites
judgeman Posted December 26, 2012 Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 and mine. Link to post Share on other sites
Dr.Arnie Posted December 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 Fast reloads without shells? I'm guessing you're cooking up a kind of moon clip that holds only bbs. indeed, i shall explain now. due to the rex being of a break action design it allowed a new system we have devised. in short our design allows for the whole cylinder to be removed. our system contains the gas within the cylinder so this essentially means that reload is as easy as with any semi-auto pistol. the extraction system of the rex is in place in our design as to aid in the extraction of the cylinder its as simple as breaking the action, removing the cylinder and inserting a new one. and away you goooooo . the internals of the cylinder are the untested part but we are confident it should work, theres nothing complicated in the whole gun at all but as we have no experience with the production of a gun from scratch were taking things slow. Link to post Share on other sites
Horsem4n Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 so it reloads like the revolver from killzone? except of course with a break open action. Link to post Share on other sites
komplikation Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 So it reloads exactly like the Pereira P33 from 2142? TWO BIRDS WITH ONE STONE. Link to post Share on other sites
notrabies Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 I personally fear for the judges of the Arnie's build contest, too many ingenious designs to choose a winner from! Link to post Share on other sites
Dr.Arnie Posted December 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 So it reloads exactly like the Pereira P33 from 2142? TWO BIRDS WITH ONE STONE. yep, thats where i got the inspiration from. ever since i saw it back then ive wanted to make it. when i saw the rex i knew it was time . it occured to me that it was the best of both worlds, the fun of a revolver and the fast reload of a semi-auto pistol. it sadly doesnt take shells but all i ever hear is how annying it is to pick them up all the time. Link to post Share on other sites
Voxcaster Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 Do you have a working prototype yet? Link to post Share on other sites
Dr.Arnie Posted December 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 not yet, we are in the process of finalising the designs for the lower reciever and hand grip. sadly when we wanted to start machining the cnc company was over booked and then christmas came along, which as brits know shuts things down for 2 weeks. i hope to get machining started the first week in january. we have desinged this to be cnc'd for maximum accuracy as i will not tolerate any poor fitting, much anoyance to keswick! if it comes own to it it is able to be machined by hand and i have a workshop on hand for keswick to use. either way it well get done asap. Link to post Share on other sites
Dagonet Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 Not a gamer so don't get the game refs, but in my mind your making an evolution of what Webley and Enfield used to do. I see a Mk5 Webley Revolver thats been down the gym and hitting steroids. A moon clipped version running win-gun shells would be too much win. Watching with interest, good luck with the project (your my favourite allready) Link to post Share on other sites
Wild_XIII Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 This news satisfies me in the pants! Once you get a prototype going I might have to drive to you just to fondle it! Link to post Share on other sites
Dr.Arnie Posted December 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 indeed dagonet, most break action designs are similar. the rex was a protoype russian revolver that never made it (probably becuase of the roids so we thought why not lol. the webley will probably be our next project once we know whats what with the REX also thank you for your support. on another note i have completed a virtual test of the break open mechanism and cylinder ejector and all seems to work. Link to post Share on other sites
Dr.Arnie Posted December 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 ill be sure to have the kleenex ready. Link to post Share on other sites
sandstorm Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 Weird, it's like the website ate my post... But I think Dr.Arnie answered my comment anyway, with possible Webleys in the pipeline if this works.. Neat. Link to post Share on other sites
Voxcaster Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 What's the total cost of building one at this point? Link to post Share on other sites
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