ED-SKaR Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 http://uk.news.yahoo.com/military-glock-pistols-40-years-browning-000612010.html Well I havn't heard about this before. Seems the Sig 226 and 229 were just an UOR after all Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteHawksan Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 Aint nothing wrong with a glock as a sidearm, it may be fugly, but it's reliable, accurate and easy to handle. The browning may be iconic and much loved, but it isn't really a match to the Glock. Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 Seems a bit out of the blue but then as win as the Browning is it is not the common standard that everyone else is going for. And as said it is harder to keep a Browning going or to get parts for it compared to a Glock. I am sure other things like weight of the gun and ease of maintenance has been included. Though if I had my way they would all have SLRs and Brownings and win by having the biggest 'tasche or a flag. 'FireKnife' Link to post Share on other sites
Deadmeat Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 Yeah spotted this too on bbc news: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20978842 I don't it so much.... I'm just on the lookout for a dual holster so I can have two glocks concealed at the back of my belt!!! Link to post Share on other sites
ED-SKaR Posted January 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 Well I'm surprised that they havn't taken the sigs further, they are good guns and there are a couple thousand in circulation with front line units. Not that I dislike glocks, I don't think they are ugly either, I get one, find it great to use and then get bored of it and move it on for something with some character... Link to post Share on other sites
hwagan Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 Not that I dislike glocks, I don't think they are ugly either, I get one, find it great to use and then get bored of it and move it on for something with some character... That's exactly how I feel about them. Brilliant guns, fantastic design, excellent ergonomics, clever features and thoroughly decent performance... But all the character of a middle aged insurance salesman called Keith. Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteHawksan Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 Well I'd have them all on 1911's. But alas, I'm not in procurement. Also, price is why Glocks, the SIG's aren't cheap, and they're heavy compared to Glocks. Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 At the end of the day Travis Haley (*suitcase* I am actually going to agree with him) put it best: When the *suitcase* hits the fan and you have a choice of a modified 1911 with all the bits and bobs and a bog standard striker fired gun, you go for the striker gun as once you have used one they are all going to be the same, do the same job, not as well as a gun that is set up or modified, but if it isn't set up for you it wont work as well. The striker is always going to be the same and should always be your go to gun if you need one fast. Pretty much sums it up, they work, they are a Jack of all trades and you know what job they do. They just can't be expected to run as hard as your personal custom toy. Plus easier to teach people, no safeties, no change in trigger travel. All it takes is a rack of the slide on a loaded magazine and then in the holster for when you need it. 'FireKnife' Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 I take it we're getting more than just the guns and holsters for our money? Some kind of insurance/servicing plan? As £9M for 25,000 works out at £360 each or $581. That's $40 more than you can pick one up for in a US shop. I would have expected a bulk buy discount for 25,000 units. Then again this is the UK military we're talking about. Not exactly money savvy going on previous accounts. Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteHawksan Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 I take it we're getting more than just the guns and holsters for our money? Some kind of insurance/servicing plan? As £9M for 25,000 works out at £360 each or $581. That's $40 more than you can pick one up for in a US shop. I would have expected a bulk buy discount for 25,000 units. Then again this is the UK military we're talking about. Not exactly money savvy going on previous accounts. I believe it includes ammunition servicing holsters and parts. Or as per standard British Army procurement. Glock: We'll sell you 25,000 G17's at $200 a pice BA Procurement Officer: That's good, we'll give you $581! Glock: Okay.. sure. Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 Should have taken Beretta on the PX4 thing that meant that any service person killed while on duty with one and it fails them they get so much paid to their widow or family. Though that may only be for police issue pistols. But either way for that much cash I would expect to see one Glock, about 3-4 magazines, holster, service contract and basic training package from Glock in how to best utilise the sidearm. 'FireKnife' Link to post Share on other sites
starburst Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 Haha, oh so very British! I can imagine that price will cover all the bases including spare magazines, cant imagine why it would include ammunition as wouldnt they get that through the same procurement channels that they get 9mm for the current Sig's and Browning's? Really does drive it home that for a little more than most AEG's over here you could buy a real pistol! I need to move country! Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 Normally I had high respects for Glock as a firearm, but they've (company) been in hot water locally in the past year having won an auction for a contract to arm our national police with 60,000 units. The bidding stage was shoddy, and testing found to give Glock an advantage over the others. Lastly, Glock won the contract even before anything to do with the auction started. Then again, it takes two to tango and the local politicians aren't exactly saints. Link to post Share on other sites
spetsnazdave87 Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 A stat I read a while back is that you can get two Glocks with suppressors included and two mags per gun (IIRC) for the price of a single Sig 226 with no extras. Link to post Share on other sites
Shardik Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 Regardless of price I'd still want a Glock. Porcelain gun made in Germany you know? Can't be seen through metal detectors you know? Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 Dear MOD if you're reading. I'll take some of those Hi-Powers off you if you want. Make a bit of money back from the Glocks? £50 a piece. Excellent deal I'm sure you'll agree. Link to post Share on other sites
Tw1tch Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 Its simply an attempt at making the British army look fashionable by colour matching the primaries and secondaries. (Though all the images I saw in the news were the all black models) Link to post Share on other sites
ED-SKaR Posted January 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 Regardless of price I'd still want a Glock. Porcelain gun made in Germany you know? Can't be seen through metal detectors you know? That's only the "Glok seven" and you need to have the red tape around the magazine. Link to post Share on other sites
ollie_ty Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 That's only the "Glok seven" and you need to have the red tape around the magazine. All mags need red tape around the bottom. All Mags. Ever. Link to post Share on other sites
pace Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 The glock platform is very user friendly, easy to maintain and the new gen units fire like melted butter. The other thing to consider a lot of police forces in the UK use them, it would make sense to have a platform of usability across armed services, as stated above if you know how to use it you can just pick one up and go. Can solve short term kit problems when *suitcase* hits the fan. In normal land my local gun shop had a few in at £500 a piece that's marked up obviously and includes getting them to the Channel Islands. So personally I think the price per unit the mod is paying is fine. Compared to a new Sig or Usp it's a bargain. Link to post Share on other sites
Philbucknall Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 I was just talking to a mate who used the browning extensively when he was in and he's glad it's going. Take it anywhere other than here or Europe where its hot and the working parts expand so much it'll always jam after maybe three shots. There's No place for sentiment or nostalgia in military procurement. Lol. Link to post Share on other sites
Shardik Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 As above. An old acquaintance of mine had one one extensively in the early days (he was a Marine, old school). He hated the browning. Even to the extent that he would often field a revolver instead. Stating "at least you know your going to get all 6 away" This is all moot given the Glock is Mr reliable! Link to post Share on other sites
fiddlesticks4220 Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 The 581 price included a load of spare parts and mags for each gun Link to post Share on other sites
T3CH Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 Holsters, spares, suppressors (apparently), and ammunition. Ammunition is weird as it's not that hard to source surely? Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 How many mags? They come with three normally. Suppressors? That can't be right. Glock don't make suppressors or threaded barrels. All after market. Why would they supply other companies products? They're carried for SHTF scenarios. I can't imagine them being used apart from convenience at the range. I think it's just you can buy a Glock, mags and a suppressor for less than a P226 or something. Link to post Share on other sites
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