BerserkDS Posted August 21, 2013 Report Share Posted August 21, 2013 Hopefully one of us figure it out, glad to know I'm not alone! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stuey Posted August 21, 2013 Report Share Posted August 21, 2013 I took Another thing I noticed and not sure if this is Normal. When you switch modes in between shots, does the mode change on the fly or does it change the following shot? Mine changes modes on the following shot. That's logical, surely? Once you've racked the gun you've already loaded the BBs, so moving the switch just tells it how many to load on the next racking of the action? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sacairsoftsn00py Posted August 22, 2013 Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 Shot at cardboard, styrofoam, and up in the air to see whether or not mine was shooting 5 rounds...or 6 rounds. As with both Brigg and BerserkDS, mine shoots 5 on the 6rd setting. This is using Bioval .25g BBs which are (if I remember correctly ~5.87mm) instead of the more typical 5.95mm bbs (as advertised). Something isn't mechanically right. Something is off spec...its possible that whatever it is, a fraction of a millimeter will change the loading behavior of the gun. Surprisingly, I'm okay with this. I must be getting old. 5 shots instead of 6 means I get to shoot 6 times on a full shell on the max shot setting. If it fixes itself...no problem. I think I'll run this on the 5 round setting instead of the 3 round setting...The BBs spread out anyway. Not like it follows a consistent shot pattern at longer ranges anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BerserkDS Posted August 22, 2013 Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 You know I thought the same. 5 might actually be better, I get an extra shot out of a shell. My main worry was if something was broken. But if its a design flaw then I will be shooting away. Read another review online and the guy claimed he got 7 shots on off one shell on six shot mode. He claimed it was on overloaded shell, but pretty sure he has the same issue and doesn't realize it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
point7 Posted August 22, 2013 Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 how do i remove the trigger ? i have the two pins out but it still wount come out ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted August 22, 2013 Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 Regarding the misfeed, Kratisto's link has some of it covered towards the end: http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fgungineer.matrix.jp%2Fairgun%2Ffix%2FTM%2FM870%2FM870_tantical.htm&langpair=ja%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 Basically they say the hop rubber inside is loosely packed against the barrel and may cause misfeeding should it be improperly installed or comes undone and folds into itself causing an obstruction. There's mention of "bonding" the hop rubber to the barrel, I'm assuming with something like RTV sealant, but there's not much detail about it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sacairsoftsn00py Posted August 22, 2013 Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 If the barrel is clogged, itll only shoot two on the 3 shot mode Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted August 22, 2013 Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 If the obstruction is at the breech, sure, no bbs will go in. But that's one long *albatross* piece of loose rubber on top of the barrel, twice as long on regular tri-shots. Should the forward end pinch and fold down, it could allow the entry of one bb only giving you an odd numbered load. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sacairsoftsn00py Posted August 22, 2013 Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 Think that may also change how much backspin a bb gets? If it does then one bb will always curve up way high when shooting the gun. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 Was pointed out by RiotSC that Tokyo Marui has issued some kind of a recall: http://www.tokyo-marui.co.jp/news/m870/ Bad batch of hop rubbers I think, or at least improperly installed ones. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sacairsoftsn00py Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 I just emailed echigoya about my shotty shooting 5 instead of 6. Waiting for their response. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLite Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 TM issues a product recall? In other news, pigs spotted flying over Hampshire, Peter Mandelson is a force for good, David Cameron gets on his bike, Nick Clegg tells the truth and the Ministry of Defence manages to buy equipment that isn't terrible, arrives on time and at a sensible cost. 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandstorm Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 I can also report that a horny, dark red-skinned guy just visited my office wanting to borrow some heating coal before his place gets buried under a fast-running glacier... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
point7 Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 tm does indeed a recall but only for japanese customers. i emaild WGC about my problems and they told me to disambly the gun en see if the nozzle is broke and that the hop unit is ok, they are gonne try the order the parts en then send them to us for free. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
point7 Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 my hop unit and nozzle seem to be intact ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
leothelion Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 "Gas at high pressure at high temperature, it will corrupt mighty burden is applied to each part and would be operated as it is." Ahh well that cleared that up hehe.. I love translator Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sacairsoftsn00py Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 This person has ran 134a and 152a in his. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sacairsoftsn00py Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 Oh and point7..looks like your nozzle is warped under the top nozzle. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kunlun Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 Hooray! Mine is in Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brigg Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 So, How Do you get to the nozzle anyway? Ive been trying to figure it out but I dont wanna break it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zereck Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 Mine arrived yesterday but I just came back home today reading about the fault. Its already dark here and there is very little room in my house but I can tell that I can shoot 6 times on 6 shot mode(was shooting a cardboard box from very close so I couldn't tell how many bbs exactly I shot from the spread). Still if the range is ok(which hopefully I can test tomorrow) Im not too bothered by it. I once disassembled a chinese clone of the Marui m3 spring and it was a pain in the *albatross*, I hope this one is easier somewhat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gigueand Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 So loading nozzle is plastic then, just like the tri-shots? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sacairsoftsn00py Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 Got game time with it. Being old, fat, and out of shape...I only ran two rounds...one with my tm mp7 as my primary...the other was the tm mp7. My first game impressions....gun is awesome. Range is excellent. Power with duster/152a was at 250 fps with .25g bbs. I'll have to crop my video before uploading it. Ill post the link after. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
point7 Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 Oh and point7..looks like your nozzle is warped under the top nozzle. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4 using Tapatalk 2 what do you mean with warped under the top nozzle ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wingmann Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 what do you mean with warped under the top nozzle ? Top nozzle is warped at the bottom? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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