sacairsoftsn00py Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 (edited) The new Marui shells are now avaible at Echigoya: GREEN WHITE <3 Grabbed their last 5 sets of the white shells...looks like they're selling the shells in pairs instead of by threes. Would have been nice to have a set of three shells per pack instead of two. Oh well. I'll have to make ado for now. 10 more shells and I think I'll be fine. I may have to shoot in three shot mode for now. ------------- 30 minutes later....a tracking number was provided by echigoya. No response about the inquiry I sent out about the M870 I picked up from them not shooting the 6rds that it should. As with a few members here...my unit shoots 5 rounds on the 6rd burst setting. So....I responded to their e-mail update with another inquiry about the faulty shot mode. Edited August 30, 2013 by sacairsoftsn00py Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Valkyr Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Never seen a shotgun I like before... Now I want to play CQB! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Baddbaz Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 (edited) They work with other makes of shells , not just marui ones .. So packs of 3 are available if you don't use marui ones . I am waiting for the shiny new thing rush to die down and it to find its levelled out price . Also gives me a chance to observe the early adopters ( guinea pigs ) faults and fails . Before commiting to a purchase . Edited August 30, 2013 by Baddbaz 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sacairsoftsn00py Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 I like the white marui shells. Lol. More often than not...I dont go generic when it comes to marui stuff. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
point7 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 WGC has orderd my spare parts hope i get em soon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sacairsoftsn00py Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Heard back from echigoya. Apparently, ill need to ship my hop unit back...they'll send me a new one in return. Gotta pay for shipping of course... I dont see how ut could be a hop issue though...maybe an updated piece allows for quicker feeding of bbs to be chambered? Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
northernairsofter Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 (edited) For those wondering about performance and looking for a detailed video/description , here is probably the best video around atm. And Maruis Claim of over 100 shots with a single charge of gas is certainly true , Khanseb manages around 114 on 3 shot mode! Edited August 30, 2013 by northernairsofter 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zereck Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Heard back from echigoya. Apparently, ill need to ship my hop unit back...they'll send me a new one in return. Gotta pay for shipping of course... I dont see how ut could be a hop issue though...maybe an updated piece allows for quicker feeding of bbs to be chambered? Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4 using Tapatalk 2 Well I read on the airsoftmechanics forum that the loose hop rubber causes a pinch and the gun loads only 1 bb in the chamber even if it's set on 2. Tough apperantely it can be fixed by bonding the rubber onto the inner barrel. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Baddbaz Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 This is the reason I always buy from a shop rather than online . Any problems you can Return it and get money back or replacement . May be cheaper online but post / shipping for returns etc soon negates any savings you make on a purchase . , bummer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sacairsoftsn00py Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Not every shop carries Marui items. Sometimes you have to buy it online....specially if the item is newly released. Generally, Marui stuff is problem free out of the box...given that you use it as intended. Customer service....why I shop Marui stuff with Echigoya. Still on the fence about whether or not I should get the part to "fix" the 870 knowing that I have to ship the stock part back. Ill ask if I could just purchase the part and have it shipped. I may also just purchase another marui m870 when the next batch gets released. More than likely. .I'll just do the latter. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aod Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 I got my M870 on Friday, it's safe to say that this thing is "The Shiznit!". Seriously though, I love it to bits, worth every penny of the 300-odd quid it cost! Things I've found; The release valves on the gas-magazines are a little odd, if you frequently release the gas-magazines while they're fully gassed it can cause the o-ring in the release valve to jam up against the side of the valve, eventually causing it to jam "open". It's a simple fix though, just remove the valve from the casing and then open it (the brass base unscrews from the valve body). Pop the o-ring back in place in its groove and give it a nice little lube with silicone grease. I've also found that the Gas magazines start the characteristic "I'm full" venting when they are nowhere near full, so I'd very very strongly recommend installing little o-rings in the fill-valves (nick them from lighters). When filling the mags, hold your ear against your gas-can, you should hear the squirting of the gas as it transfers from the can to the magazine, just stop filling when the squirting stops. This can take up to 30 seconds, the gas-magazines hold a lot of gas. Lastly, the rattling of the spring and plunger in the shell tube for storing extra shells is extremely irritating, thankfully, a little rolled up piece of paper stops the rattling with ease. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Inkall Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 I think I'm still going to hold on and see what variants come out and if any action is taken to fix some of the small issues, besides I should really get a new backup AEG first... ...but all these videos and pieces of information are great though sounds like overall it's a pretty awesome piece of kit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sacairsoftsn00py Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 Seb noted that using the shotty on 5 shot mode increases gas consumption significantly. He's verified that the m870 can shoot over 100 shots either with a 144 or 134a gas. Shooting in the 6 shot mode decreases it to about 60ish. This is with continuous shooting however. It may be possible to get better numbers that what he has been able to show... Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
-wigs- Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 Got an email from wgc, my package was shipped then recalled due to the defect. Was fully refunded but dammit I want my shotty Quote Link to post Share on other sites
leothelion Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 Got an email from wgc, my package was shipped then recalled due to the defect. Was fully refunded but dammit I want my shotty Well thats a good and a bad thing! My mates got one so im going to use that bit like said before I may wait to see what other models may come out or a price drop cause I think £300 is way too steep. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FTZ-WildeCard Posted September 2, 2013 Report Share Posted September 2, 2013 Sigh, wish I'd bought one now before the local shop had sold out!! Argh! x) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aod Posted September 2, 2013 Report Share Posted September 2, 2013 Sigh, wish I'd bought one now before the local shop had sold out!! Argh! x) Yeah, those sold out quick, not that I'm surprised. I knew they should have ordered 30 more! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sacairsoftsn00py Posted September 3, 2013 Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 Tm shotty shells come in packs of two...stead of the usual 3... Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JCheeseright Posted September 3, 2013 Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 awwww yeahhhhh. next purchase I think will be a bunch of new style TM shells, the ACM ones I have there will keep me ticking over for a while though 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blobface Posted September 3, 2013 Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 Because of the fatass shells TM uses, I suspect the real steel Mesa Tactical aluminium shell holders won't work with this gun, and I don't want to pay £110 to find out. A real 12 gauge is around 18.5mm, where as the TM shells are 21mm, as my Fobus shell carrier couldn't hold these, I figured the Mesa couldn't neither. So... I decided to make my own, for authenticity, I will eventually have this in aluminium, but to ensure everything fits and look right, I've done my first iteration and tested it with 3D printing. That being said, I'll reduced some of the details the Mesa one has due to limited information, but I'm happy enough with what I've currently got. Here's the result: Of course the pins will have to be special with new hex screw holes etc, but those shouldn't be a problem Will upload the final images when I receive the parts once they are machined, 3-4 weeks is probably what I'm looking at if I'm lucky. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JCheeseright Posted September 3, 2013 Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 Because of the fatass shells TM uses, I suspect the real steel Mesa Tactical aluminium shell holders won't work with this gun, and I don't want to pay £110 to find out. A real 12 gauge is around 18.5mm, where as the TM shells are 21mm, as my Fobus shell carrier couldn't hold these, I figured the Mesa couldn't neither. So... I decided to make my own, for authenticity, I will eventually have this in aluminium, but to ensure everything fits and look right, I've done my first iteration and tested it with 3D printing. That being said, I'll reduced some of the details the Mesa one has due to limited information, but I'm happy enough with what I've currently got. Here's the result: Of course the pins will have to be special with new hex screw holes etc, but those shouldn't be a problem Will upload the final images when I receive the parts once they are machined, 3-4 weeks is probably what I'm looking at if I'm lucky. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chas Posted September 3, 2013 Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 Looks incredible! Are you set on the aluminium or dont you think the current plastic 3D print you have will hold up? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blobface Posted September 3, 2013 Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 (edited) That was huge.. lol Looks incredible! Are you set on the aluminium or dont you think the current plastic 3D print you have will hold up? Thanks! I'm quite sure the 3D print will hold up fine, especially if I crank up the density, this test print was at 10%, so it was mainly air, if I were to make one for use, I'd make sure it's 100%, but I'll go with aluminium just because the finish will be much nicer, and closer to the real steel item I'm trying to replicate. Functionally it shouldn't make any difference, these plastic are pretty damn strong at higher density. My next step is actually to use the transparent plastic stuff I got, and print the plastic part of the shot shell, but adding texture to the outside, because these Marui shells are whack, they just have a badly printed sticker on the outside, if space allows (which I'm quite sure it won't, but worth trying), I'll see if I can fit a piece of paper inside with a rolled up picture of buckshots. I'm relatively confident I can print the top part of a working shell, but not sure about adding an insert... will see! Edited September 3, 2013 by blobface Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JCheeseright Posted September 4, 2013 Report Share Posted September 4, 2013 speaking of shells... I wasn't overly fond of the finish on the ACM shells I bought, so I thought I'd improve the look: quick spray of gold paint onto the 'brass' sections and a gloss varnish and hey presto! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PureSilver Posted September 4, 2013 Report Share Posted September 4, 2013 That OWNS. Are you going to go with 'B&Q' for the machining? If not, I've got some other alternatives, but no-one local. I need to get you that stock part back, too... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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