FTZ-WildeCard Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 Thanks. Do you have any issues with the china shells? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Danke Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 I see this is out now. http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/g-p-shotshell-receiver-rail-for-marui-m870-shotgun-short.html#.UtwvxbTTmHs Good news! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mr manji Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 I see this is out now. http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/g-p-shotshell-receiver-rail-for-marui-m870-shotgun-short.html#.UtwvxbTTmHs Good news! Ordered one yesterday, im quite excited sent from my vsr10 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wingmann Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 Thanks. Do you have any issues with the china shells? All of them work nicely. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FTZ-WildeCard Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 I tried with my ASG clone shells again - the Marui shell as expected was perfect 100% of the time. Some ASG shells also operated perfectly. For those that did not, re-inserting the shell and spinning it a little seemed to make something "click" (I'm hoping this was the loading gate opening fully) and the shell worked perfectly. Unfortunately, during the test (8 shells + 1 Marui) one of the ASG shells suffered a stuck follower. Faith restored in ASG shells - not perfect, but at a 1/3 of the price of the Marui shells they'll do for now... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Donni Wannabi Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 Good lord, this thing is full of win, all other airsoft shotgun systems are now obsolete! No way... if they can make an electric tri-barrel shotty system, then all other airsoft shotgun systems are obsolete! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
p.phresh Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 I tried with my ASG clone shells again - the Marui shell as expected was perfect 100% of the time. Some ASG shells also operated perfectly. For those that did not, re-inserting the shell and spinning it a little seemed to make something "click" (I'm hoping this was the loading gate opening fully) and the shell worked perfectly. Unfortunately, during the test (8 shells + 1 Marui) one of the ASG shells suffered a stuck follower. Faith restored in ASG shells - not perfect, but at a 1/3 of the price of the Marui shells they'll do for now... The shells need to be lubed. i'm using the same ACM clone shells as well, and from time to time they do jam but this can be remedied by putting a drop of lube into them and then using a loading rod or skewer to work the lube down. Don't use an unjamming rod or you risk breaking the tip off in the shell and it is incredibly difficult to remove the broken bit afterwards. Also, don't leave the shells loaded when you're not using them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Danke Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 TM shells back in stock at ehobby. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
onizuka-gto Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 ACM shells are alright, i paid US$30 for 16 shells. only 10 worked, but thats still better then paying the same amount for just four TM shells. Really have to try the lub thing though, i might be able to get those other shells working! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FTZ-WildeCard Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 The shell spinning trick worked in every case and I was able to unjam the shell that had issues. I'm not sure about putting lube into the shell as it'll invariably end up on the BBs and then on my hop rubber. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
you can`t shoot me Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 I had about 10 of the asg shells which feed ok in my tm spring shotgun but in the m870 they just wouldn`t feed right at all Most of them would only fire once then stop feeding if you push the shell back into place after each shot you hear a little click and it would feed for another one shot. I decided to just buy some tm shells and they feed perfectly everytime with the added advantage I can also now use guarder 0.28 bbs which my asg shells just couldn`t handle. Sure the tm shells are expensive but at least you know they will work. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JCheeseright Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 WildeCard, I find if you insert the ACM shells with the 'gate' at the top they work every time, if it's off to the side or by the bottom they're hit and miss. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FTZ-WildeCard Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) WildeCard, I find if you insert the ACM shells with the 'gate' at the top they work every time, if it's off to the side or by the bottom they're hit and miss. Thanks. I think that's basically what the spinning does come to think of it, but if I think if I just use your tip then I can forgo the fiddling around after. Cheers! EDIT: Just tested this, and it works, if you don't hear or feel the click when you insert the shell, spin it slightly and it does the trick - works 100% of the time! EDIT 2: OK, I found an even easier, fail safe way to do this - when you load your shell, simply push it up into the chamber firmly and it'll click again - this works regardless of the orientation of the loading gate and won't require you to spin the shell or check the orientation of the gate when under fire! Woo! Can't wait to skirmish the 870 again! Edited January 22, 2014 by FTZ-WildeCard Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sacairsoftsn00py Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 feeding issue may be attributed to bb spec. For example, my kwa m11 mags won't feed the airsoftoutletnw tracer rounds I use in my kwa Kriss. Those tracer rounds feed well in my marui mp7 and kwa lm4. They also feed we'll in my tm g17 gbb. With tm recoil shock mags...they jam up. Elite force tracer rounds feed well in everything I throw it into...same with bioval .25g bbs, marui .20g, kwa .25g, bioval .30g bbs. AEX .25g bbs feed well in my GHK G5 but seize up in GHK AK mags. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rob15 Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Another shell carrier on the way, this time from Angry Gun, looks very similar to the one Blobface did. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=678624532178786&set=pcb.678626615511911&type=1&relevant_count=2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mr manji Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 sent from my vsr10 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GSO-Geko Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Complete Disassemble of the Shotgun. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BerserkDS Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 So my M870 finallly broke after many months of hard use. Part that broke was part #870T-36. Now the desperate hunt begins to find someone who can source me that part Quote Link to post Share on other sites
steelfallenangel Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Has this gun become a pain to find replacements for? I thought one of the biggest alures of TM guns was the plethora of replacement or upgrade parts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PureSilver Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 It takes a bit of time to develop them! But there's stuff already on the market and doubtless more on the way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 And that's just speaking generally. Some models get little attention in the way of parts like the Uzi and 5-7. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FTZ-WildeCard Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 (edited) Just received my G&P shell carrier, but am having trouble getting the extended pins to go through the trigger block holes. Is there any particular trick to doing this or should I just reach for the rubber mallet? Thanks! EDIT: In the end to save pieces going missing, I bolted up the carrier with a slight offset to the body and it seems to be holding OK. The trigger block is still a bit wobbly, but I assume that's because I haven't completed the install 100% correctly as yet, so still after some advice and guidance! Additionally, is there any way to adjust the retention on the shell carrier itself? It's extremely tight and it feels like I'm crushing the shells putting them in and it's very slow to remove them for reloads too! Edited January 31, 2014 by FTZ-WildeCard Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atsalakotos Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 Has anyone got any ideas on where to find the m870 in stock? (Europe / Asia) I have been looking for it in all the online stores I can think of, but no luck... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
onizuka-gto Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 (edited) Oh, that frigging trigger block, I remembered i had to take it out 3 or 4 times, until I got it right. The trick is that if it's loose and Easy to fit in, then it's wrong. I can't remember if it's when you cocked it or not, but the hammer on the trigger block must be under tension when you put it in. So when you put the trigger block pin on, you will have to hold it in a little tightly to align the holes and gently plastic/rubber Mallet it in. It's difficult If you only using your two hands doing this two things, if you have a bench press it might make your life easier. Anyway, good luck wildcard. Edited January 31, 2014 by onizuka-gto 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FTZ-WildeCard Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 (edited) Thank you Onizuka-sensei! (Loved GTO!) I did a part disassemble as per the video above and had a look, it's just an issue of aligning the reciever and the inner workings as you have mentioned. I'll fiddle around with it half cocked etc and hopefully I'll be able to sort it. Thank you again for your input! EDIT: New problem now - in between fitting and removing the trigger block the gun has been put in "cocked" mode -- that is the slide no longer pumps back. I've tried to use the trigger block to release it, but it isn't working. Any idea which lever or switch it is to release the action? Thanks again. EDIT 2: ARGH. Stupidly when reassembling just to pack up for now - the spring for the ejection port flew off (it almost already happened before, and I KNEW to hold it down but forgot).. Damn, now begins the search for the spring. Think I'm going to cry! Edited January 31, 2014 by FTZ-WildeCard Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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