Inq Eisenhorn Posted October 13, 2013 Report Share Posted October 13, 2013 I pretty much agree with everything NonEx states. I picked up a black version, even though I ordered Tan.....oh well. I don't think that WE has significantly raised their game on this product, and while nothing to do with the gun itself, the poor advertising and associated controversy of this guns existence (at least in the UK) has left me slightly cold. I have no intention of skirmishing this rifle, so things like accuracy / gas economy are of little real importance. As a collection piece it's OK for the price. I will always give WE credit for making guns that other producers seem to avoid, I wish they would increase quality and accuracy of the replication, even if this takes the price per unit higher. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dj_komodo Posted October 13, 2013 Report Share Posted October 13, 2013 Calibur, can you please link to the maple leaf rubber? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pkm200901 Posted October 14, 2013 Report Share Posted October 14, 2013 (edited) How do you adjust the hopup on these? *edit - never mind. Grub screw above the chamber. What an unusual system. This is rather nice... Solid blowback, loud, solidly constructed. Edited October 14, 2013 by pkm200901 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mnmc10 Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 (edited) short barrel msk convertion done you guys wouldnt believe whatouter barrel i used. williploadpics later Edited October 18, 2013 by mnmc10 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WTF?Shane Posted October 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 short barrel msk convertion done you guys wouldnt believe whatouter barrel i used. williploadpics later Just tell us already!!! Please? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mnmc10 Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 (edited) the shims one at the back and one at the front of the barrel base the barrel is from a WA/Gnp based gbbr, all i did was to fabricate shims for things to fit properly. Edited October 18, 2013 by mnmc10 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WTF?Shane Posted October 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 Ok cool. I was looking at using WE M4 barrels but figured also needed shims because of the difference in the mounting face thickness. Maybe I'll just wait for the proper outer barrels to get released. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Valkyr Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 I've seen mixed reports of this being discontinued already? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Inq Eisenhorn Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 It's scaremongering, Milspecsolutions is openly selling them in the UK for £360. Just contact Iain to sort you out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
calbur20 Posted October 19, 2013 Report Share Posted October 19, 2013 Took a look at my own MSK. If you have either a JG or AGM GBBR outer barrel, no need for shims - the barrels look thick enough to drop in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 Barrel kits and polymer handguards available; http://arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/211651-we-msk-acr-barrel-kits-and-polymer-handguards-available/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jkpics Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 Lovely gun, but it's big and heavy, just got mine today Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 Same impressions as I had. Had hopes it would be closer to the G5 in those aspects, but what are you gonna do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jkpics Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 I tried to put a M4 nozzel in it and it fits, but the ACR nozzel have a mm more on the end to push the BB into the hopup unit, the ACR nozzel is also reinforced around the gas input hole, anyway it dry fires just fine with a M4 nozzel. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Valkyr Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 The bolt looks similar to a G39 one? Are these any more gas efficient than the M4? Tempted to get one but torn between this and the HK416. Any more news on RAT etc parts for these yet? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jkpics Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Just put heat shrink tubing on the taps on the rail, and no wobble at all now. Waiting for a SRS and a M300 scoutlight for it now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WTF?Shane Posted February 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 After a day of playing and about to empty my mags the gun stops and won't go into battery. I took it apart and found the loading nozzle spring broke on the nozzle side and coiled up behind the loading nozzle. Performed temporary fix by coiling the end to make a new loop. From what I remember, Boobie on YouTube posted the same malfunction on his MSK, though his spring may have broke on the other end and was still able to operate the gun. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
speculator Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 Been thinking of picking one up and maybe sharing the rail handguard with my PTS ACR. Has anyone tried that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dj_komodo Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 What i've heard, it doesn't fit... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jkpics Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 Does not fit, tryed it a a shop in denmark. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Otaroko Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Alright, so I recently purchased a used WE MSK in Black here in the States. I love the rifle so far in the little amount of time that I have had it. Regrettably withing the first magazine or so my BB loading tip on the stock nozzle broke off. I purchased an aluminum nozzle with the NPAS already installed and threw it in as soon as it arrived. Cant comment on the effectiveness of the NPAS as I do not yet have a chrony. But on to other issues I am having that hopefully some others here may be able to help me with.First off is the sluggish bolt return. Sometimes the bolt gets hung up on the BB in the magazine which I believe is the reason the stock nozzle broke. Either it gets hung on the BB or it gets stuck about 1/4 of an inch from the full forward (closed) position. I thought this either had to do with the finish on the bolt, or the bolt return spring being too weak to return the bolt, OR which is most likely the case, stiff feed lips on the brand new magazines.My proposed solution to my first two problems were to sand down the bolt in areas I believed to be contact areas with finish (Yellow Arrows) on them as pictured below:Also seen in the picture above, pointed to by the red arrows, is another area where I think is an issue. The stock nozzle has a square around that hole in the nozzle to take up the space in the bolt to further minimize movement, where the RA-Tech does not. (Red Arrows)Moving on I installed heat shrink to the bolt return guide, doubled up so that it gives the spring enough area to catch while still allowing the rod to fully move into and out of the bolt:Lastly, the aluminum nozzle comes with what I believe to be steel nozzle guides. The guide for the top of the nozzle is fine, where-as the guide for the left hand side was warped protruding above the surface of the bolt causing some interference as well. I tried simply to sand it down smooth as I was afraid removing too much material might cause the guide to break off during operation:The yellow lines are to emphasize the curve in the shape of the guide.And that's my bit folks. The MSK cycles fine 95% of the time after having performed these slight mods. Whether they are for the best or are detrimental to the operation of the MSK I'll just have to wait and see how long it lasts.My current mission is to fix the hop-up. Im unable to get any hop at all using a REAPs MG2 bucking using any weight. I know I must be doing something wrong somewhere because there is zero horizontal (left to right) stray, they just simply curve down after leaving the barrel. I want to adjust my NPAS to see if its being choked but the tool is stripped or something. I turned it once clockwise all the way down then that was it, no more adjustments for me apparently. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mnmc10 Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 on my friends msk the inner barrel (hop rubber side) is shorter than the regular inner barrel for the m4 scar pdw etc.so a hop bucking made for marui pistols or more known as vsr type barrels wont work on the msk inner barrel. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1st Commando Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 The PTS handguard and rail can be made to fit very easily by reducing the size of the locating tabs on the front of the PTS handguard /rail to fit into the MSK receiver tabs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Otaroko Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 on my friends msk the inner barrel (hop rubber side) is shorter than the regular inner barrel for the m4 scar pdw etc.so a hop bucking made for marui pistols or more known as vsr type barrels wont work on the msk inner barrel. The area that has the window cut out is shorter than typical? The reason I changed buckings was because the stock bucking was protruding lop-sided into the barrel and nothing I did would fix it. So I swapped the nub and the bucking out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
L2E Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 Alright, so I recently purchased a used WE MSK in Black here in the States. I love the rifle so far in the little amount of time that I have had it. Regrettably withing the first magazine or so my BB loading tip on the stock nozzle broke off. I purchased an aluminum nozzle with the NPAS already installed and threw it in as soon as it arrived. Cant comment on the effectiveness of the NPAS as I do not yet have a chrony. But on to other issues I am having that hopefully some others here may be able to help me with. First off is the sluggish bolt return. Sometimes the bolt gets hung up on the BB in the magazine which I believe is the reason the stock nozzle broke. Either it gets hung on the BB or it gets stuck about 1/4 of an inch from the full forward (closed) position. I thought this either had to do with the finish on the bolt, or the bolt return spring being too weak to return the bolt, OR which is most likely the case, stiff feed lips on the brand new magazines. My proposed solution to my first two problems were to sand down the bolt in areas I believed to be contact areas with finish (Yellow Arrows) on them as pictured below: Also seen in the picture above, pointed to by the red arrows, is another area where I think is an issue. The stock nozzle has a square around that hole in the nozzle to take up the space in the bolt to further minimize movement, where the RA-Tech does not. (Red Arrows) Moving on I installed heat shrink to the bolt return guide, doubled up so that it gives the spring enough area to catch while still allowing the rod to fully move into and out of the bolt: Lastly, the aluminum nozzle comes with what I believe to be steel nozzle guides. The guide for the top of the nozzle is fine, where-as the guide for the left hand side was warped protruding above the surface of the bolt causing some interference as well. I tried simply to sand it down smooth as I was afraid removing too much material might cause the guide to break off during operation: The yellow lines are to emphasize the curve in the shape of the guide. And that's my bit folks. The MSK cycles fine 95% of the time after having performed these slight mods. Whether they are for the best or are detrimental to the operation of the MSK I'll just have to wait and see how long it lasts. My current mission is to fix the hop-up. Im unable to get any hop at all using a REAPs MG2 bucking using any weight. I know I must be doing something wrong somewhere because there is zero horizontal (left to right) stray, they just simply curve down after leaving the barrel. I want to adjust my NPAS to see if its being choked but the tool is stripped or something. I turned it once clockwise all the way down then that was it, no more adjustments for me apparently. So...also polish the top of the hammer to increase cycling. The RAT nozzle will have jamming issues until you make it the same length as the stock nozzle. Put them side by side and you will notice length difference. At least this was the experience with the early RAT MSK nozzles...might be fixed now. Seems some of us have got an MSK from a bad manufacturing batch...of which I am one... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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