Cannonfodder80 Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 One solution to the problem of returning fire through armoured windows? http://www.thearmourgroup.com/pages/glass.html Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Surely firing ports would be more useful? All that powdered glass in the air would *fruitcage* up your lungs wouldn't it? Link to post Share on other sites
Mike2514 Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 That glass doesn't really seem to me like its designed for a military type return fire application. Firstly the frosting of it seems a lot worse than normal armoured glass and makes it useless, in terms of returning fire once it's been hit a few times and because it's armoured you can't kick it out once it's shattered like that. You won't have a clue what you're shooting at. But more importantly on the video test they had they only fired two rounds back out through it. I want to see how that would stand up against a 30 round return fire whilst taking rounds. The law of physics would suggest to me that with every round it's going to get weaker and weaker. Personally I think I'd rather have just some normal ballistic glass. A cool invention though, but I think it's more for law enforcement and civilian applications. Link to post Share on other sites
paranoiddroid Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 If I'm being shot at inside balistic glasd my first thought is.peave not how can I return fire. Link to post Share on other sites
Cannonfodder80 Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Good points about the 1 way armoured glass. From rereading the site it seams its more designed for being able to send a few rounds back to give you the chance to get out of the immediate area rather than stay in a sustained firefight Link to post Share on other sites
Mike2514 Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Exactly what I was thinking/getting at. I think in a true hostile environment, you need one or the other in terms of protective glass. I can think of a few situations as a CP Operator in a low threat environment, such as the states, that it could come in useful though. Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore1-6 Posted February 2, 2014 Report Share Posted February 2, 2014 Wouldnt turning it so the port is down and ejecting cases towards the floor be better as ypu wouldnt have brass bouncing off the car roof and burning people, putting off your aim etc? Cocking handle on an SA80 would tear your shoulder a new one, regardless of casing - then you've got a stoppage and the only reason you're putting rounds down is to extract. ...you should be able to fire through the windscreen... This was a drill taught to us behind the 'wire' as we only had unarmoured hilux. Driving around Bastion they were petrified of insider attacks. This was the old technique taught in NI to those in Snatch landrovers. How does turning an L85 bring the barrel back half a foot? I can't picture it. See below quote. ... turn it 90 degrees and put it flat on top of the shoulder... Correct, have a cookie. I'd go sit in my car and demonstrate but it would probably take 'selfie of the year'. You pull down, and use the seat back to steady the aim. You're not picking shots, its just aimed roughly towards the shooter, again, to buy you time to react properly. (like the Israeli 'fire from the hip' idea) Link to post Share on other sites
Mike2514 Posted February 2, 2014 Report Share Posted February 2, 2014 Cocking handle on an SA80 would tear your shoulder a new one, regardless of casing - then you've got a stoppage and the only reason you're putting rounds down is to extract. This was a drill taught to us behind the 'wire' as we only had unarmoured hilux. Driving around Bastion they were petrified of insider attacks. This was the old technique taught in NI to those in Snatch landrovers. See below quote. Correct, have a cookie. I'd go sit in my car and demonstrate but it would probably take 'selfie of the year'. You pull down, and use the seat back to steady the aim. You're not picking shots, its just aimed roughly towards the shooter, again, to buy you time to react properly. (like the Israeli 'fire from the hip' idea) Snatch land rovers have armoured glass?! Link to post Share on other sites
Multicam_Pegasus Posted February 2, 2014 Report Share Posted February 2, 2014 Snatch land rovers have armoured glass?! Yeah and the rear doors, shame the rest was made from sardine cans. Link to post Share on other sites
Mike2514 Posted February 2, 2014 Report Share Posted February 2, 2014 Yeah and the rear doors, shame the rest was made from sardine cans. Well yeah, they're not the best, although having said that I had a snatch take a direct hit from an RPG just in front of the top cover opening and it was fine. My point was though that I was questioning shooting though the windscreen being taught to Snatch crews as they have armoured glass that you can't shoot through. Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore1-6 Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 I've seen a hilux take a hellfire throught the engine block, all occupants got out "unscathed" (with a minor case of tenitus I bet) and after a soak period got back in and drove the damned thing away. Link to post Share on other sites
Multicam_Pegasus Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 I've seen a hilux take a hellfire throught the engine block, all occupants got out "unscathed" (with a minor case of tenitus I bet) and after a soak period got back in and drove the damned thing away. That is why I drive a hilux and my Guys won't go anywhere unless they can rent one, one guy actually got a flight 300miles from his destination just Because they had Hiluxes for rent whereas his destination had none. Link to post Share on other sites
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