dapprman Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 Sorry if it's been covered here before or if asking advice like this is inappropriate (or should be in the newbie section). While I'm sorted rigging wise for CQB (black Pantac vest and pouches), for legacy paintball reasons, once spring comes along and I look to go woodlands I'll be wearing British DPM. Problem I've had is finding DPM molle gear but have found this on Amazon http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00F51MXO0/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2HY33OEHXA2K1 So just wondering if anyone's had any good/bad experience with this make/company ? I'm happy to hear of alternatives, but when looking at Flecktarn, Survivalaids, and Militarysurpless I only find old fixed style webbing in woodlands DPB, while the only Molle pattened gear seems to be in multicam or flecktarn. Link to post Share on other sites
tquilha Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 Looks like you basic ACM CIRAS vest. There are lots of these around, never heard of this seller though... Link to post Share on other sites
Azubi Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 That vest you linked isn't British DPM, it's a bad copy of the US woodland pattern. Link to post Share on other sites
johny_blaze Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 Try Begadi - they molle gear in DPM and as far as I've heard their stuff is rather good.http://begadishop.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=316_320_341 Link to post Share on other sites
Pkekyo-Nor Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 It's *suitcase*. Steer clear. Link to post Share on other sites
BigAl Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 It'll last few skirmishes before it starts to fall apart. You would be better of saving your money for something better. Link to post Share on other sites
scorch Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 You'd be better saving up some more and spring for some Warrior gear or something. Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 For that price and some time I could build a basic belt kit rig from surplus stuff that wouldn't get in the way and last a fair few years, well at least my pistol rig has and I clocked that in at around £30. 'FireKnife' Link to post Share on other sites
Pistol_Dude Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 If you're after a molle vest in DPM that is solidly built, perhaps a surplus Dutch vest would be of interest? Like this: http://www.asmc.de/en/Gear/Military/Load-bearing-equipment/Vests/Dutch-combat-vest-modular-camo-used-p.html Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ARKTIS-INFANTRY-JUNGLE-DPM-PLCE-CHEST-WEBBING-OPS-WAISTCOAT-LBE-VEST-COMMANDO-/331065932901?pt=UK_Collectables_Militaria_LE&hash=item4d15113c65 ok its not molle but personally I but unless you want to be flexible in what pouches you want and don't want at a given time (which is fair enough) I'd really give this a look. Arktis is quality gear and what our american cousins would call "real world applicable tactical warfighter gunshooter wear". The other thing to consider that plate carriers are not very practical for woodland (especially large ones like the CIRAS et al) they not very breathable, cumbersome, they expand the profile of the body and they can impede laying down. Airsoft isn't really about what is practical though so again if you want a plate carrier then crack on. just my 2p Link to post Share on other sites
CapnNukem Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 The Arktis chestrig is a good shout too, in fact the webtex one isn't bad for airsoft and can be picked up for absolute peanuts on ebay. Looks way more authentic than a CIRAS replica. Link to post Share on other sites
tquilha Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 Pistol_Dude just had the right idea. One of those surplus vests (or the Miltec replicas) will be cheap enough and last quite a bit. And being molle, you can adjust the pouches anyway you like them, and even re-use them you get a proper PC later on... Link to post Share on other sites
Shardik Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Just curious- why does your rig NEED to be in Dpm? There are various alternatives that can be purchased on the cheap, in other colours that are fine for woodland. Or, you could look for M81 US Woodland kit? Link to post Share on other sites
dapprman Posted January 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Just curious- why does your rig NEED to be in Dpm? As my woodland camo gear is already DPM from my paintball days back in the 9180s (well jacket and hat - got the trousers more recently) Link to post Share on other sites
Mike2514 Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 I would suggest for woodland, and for that price, you could get an old Brit issue chest rig in DPM, I would stay away from WebTex personally though, it won't last no where near as long as the issued rig and will cost about the same. They're excellent bits of kit that will carry 6 mags plus two water bottle size pouches either side and a map pouch in the middle. Very comfortable, lightweight and perfect for woodland. Link to post Share on other sites
dapprman Posted January 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 I should have posted on here that I have been following advice on here and looking on places such a eBay for ex-service and Arktis rigs. Also I'm now looking at vests rather than molle as the newer ones will have pouches for STANAG mags anyhow. The main reason I ideally want a molle vest is that while my main weapon is a TAR-21 (STANAG mags) I also have a MP5 and a Magpul FPG (the magazones of both use the same pouches), plus some time in the future I might treat myself to a Real Sword RIF and even possibly a G3 or SIG500 to go DMR with - so being able to swap magazine pouches would be useful. Link to post Share on other sites
Shardik Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 As my woodland camo gear is already DPM from my paintball days back in the 9180s (well jacket and hat - got the trousers more recently) I should have structured my question better. Why does your LBE need to be DPM? Why not OD, MC ect? There are many LBE options in every other flavour than Dpm. Link to post Share on other sites
dapprman Posted January 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 For while I know some of you will say it's the pattern break up that's important, frankly mixing camo types normally does not work and can help you stand out more. I'm not going for a specific look, but I do want my camo to be consistent. Note this is for woodlands gaming where I hope to get the benefit out of it, not CQB where I already wear a black molle vest. Link to post Share on other sites
Shardik Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 Wearing a Dpm vest over any other woodland savvy colour, really will not make the slightest ounce of difference mate. Especially given Airsoft is nearly always Direct Action. Link to post Share on other sites
Azubi Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 Indeed, and at distance, it won't make much difference anyway. My mob got accused of being yanks last year at EW by several people because they struggled to correctly identify the difference between the US woodland pattern and our DPM. They also didn't notice the SA80s instead of M16s or 58 Pattern instead of ALICE either but that is beside the point. We were engaging them at 30-50m. Link to post Share on other sites
dapprman Posted January 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 Hate to disagree with you guys, and yes Woodlands would go closely, however not all sites are open and easy to identify incoming, even in a fire exchange. I want consistency and the ability to try and stalk/stealth in to position. I may be out of practice with this, but I'm also far from new. Wearing two different patterns (unless close like DPM and woodlands) is almost as bad as wearing black rigging over any camo, or being all in black and thinking it makes you stealthy. Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 seems like molle dpm pouches are made but not so much vests/ plate carriers - think an od vest would be easiest (would give you massive selection) then dpm pouches over the top. can spray the od bits to break it up for camo reasons. Otherwise I think the dutch vest is the best bet as base Link to post Share on other sites
Pkekyo-Nor Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 Wearing two different patterns (unless close like DPM and woodlands) is almost as bad as wearing black rigging over any camo, or being all in black and thinking it makes you stealthy. Absolutely not. With today's youth teeming with ADHD, ADD and whatever else Ds there might be, they are essentially blind to anything that doesn't move. I have stood upright, less than ten meters from people whilst wearing solid-color clothes and gear, and they've walked straight past me. Only to get shot in the *albartroth*. And I'm not the only one with experiences like this, not by a long shot. Knowing when, how and where to move, and having good situational awareness is the key to what you wish to achieve. Not saying it can be done when wearing ACUs and desert camouflage, but wearing a green rig over a DPM uniform (or vice versa) will have little to no detrimental effect. Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 if he wants dpm then why not I don't see the issue here Link to post Share on other sites
dapprman Posted January 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 Absolutely not. With today's youth teeming with ADHD, ADD and whatever else Ds there might be, they are essentially blind to anything that doesn't move. I have stood upright, less than ten meters from people whilst wearing solid-color clothes and gear, and they've walked straight past me. Now that is scary and I do know my closest woodland site has a bad reputation for kids/younger adults. seems like molle dpm pouches are made but not so much vests/ plate carriers - think an od vest would be easiest (would give you massive selection) then dpm pouches over the top. can spray the od bits to break it up for camo reasons. Otherwise I think the dutch vest is the best bet as base One of the options for me was green molle or green and mesh and then DPM pouches. The Dutch vest above was very tempting until I decided that for the moment I didn't really need the flexibility of molle and so could go ex-services, just remind me of this when I get carried away in a few months time and decide to get a Real Sword Type 56, 56-1, or 56-2 ..... Link to post Share on other sites
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