TheFull9 Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 So my rather bespoke VZ Grips finally arrived the other day (after a long old time) and they fit on to my HurricanE/TM Desert Warrior beautifully. However, I opted for the 'slim profile' grips which are a fair bit skinnier than the standard grips for 1911s and now the grips screws protrude by a good 1-2mm even when fully tightened. From what I can remember of my experimentations the HurricanE frames feature the same spec thread inside the grip screw holes as TM does, and annoyingly it's different to RS, which puts that option out of the window. So does anyone have any suggestions for screws that'll fit and have really low profile heads on them? Link to post Share on other sites
bankz5152 Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Im after a set like this too. Try the Madbull or AS ones they seem low pro think thats what im going for. Link to post Share on other sites
Tinkerton Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 why not just file a mm or two off the back of the threaded part of the screw? Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted February 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 That's gonna be fiddly as hell surely? I did consider that sort of thing when I was running through options, but I've got no way of vice clamping something that small and trying to hold each one down against a work bench to hand file enough material from the backs just seems like it'd be the most annoying job ever in the entire world; even to do to a rough standard let alone finishing up with a nice smooth surface. All I've got in my head is an image of them endlessly spinning around while I'd be trying to work on them. Not that I've got a file small enough for a precise job like that to begin with and you're never gonna use a dremel. That and the grips cost a fair whack, probably more than my TM 1911A1 did back in the day. The current screws are very boring looking flatheads, for the sake of a few dollars more I might as well buy something more aesthetically in keeping. Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 They're only grip screws. Stick em in a vice, thread on an appropriate sized nut. Dremel off the excess then unscrew the nut. The beauty with that is the nut tidies up the mangled cut when you unscrew it. Job done. Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted February 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 I'm not really following that plan to be honest. Just so we're on the same page, you know it's not the threaded portion I have to cut down? That would be easy. It's the flat rear face of the actual heads, and as I said, I've not going anything to clamp them in securely. Either way, like I mentioned above, they're pretty cheap looking at not in keeping at all with the rest of the gun, it doesn't make sense to skimp on the screws when I've spent that much on the grips. Just wouldn't look good. Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Ah, I didn't read properly. I read Tink's post and thought he was talking about filing down the thread. It's the head that is protruding huh. Grinding them down would be a pain, agreed. And probably look a bit meh too. Best to go with Bankz's suggestion I suppose. It's mind boggling TM didn't just use RS spec. Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted February 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Actually, as you say, looking back at Tinks' post I didn't read it right either. Since the actual screw heads make contact with the grips themselves before the threaded portions reach the bottom of the holes in the frame, cutting them shorter wouldn't make any difference to the heads not being flush. About to place an order from WGC so fingers crossed when I go and look now they'll have something suitable. Edit - They've got the madbull torx heads but I can tell just from the pictures they're going to be too fat. Looks like it's going to have to be some sort of fairly specialist airsoft store for this one. Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Could try sending some regular ones to that Airsoft engineer guy people have been banding about on Facebook. I imagine he could do a tidy job of milling the head down and deepening the slot if necessary (I assume flat head?) Otherwise Mike at ESC might have some suitable. Link to post Share on other sites
Rob15 Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Could try sending some regular ones to that Airsoft engineer guy people have been banding about on Facebook. I imagine he could do a tidy job of milling the head down and deepening the slot if necessary (I assume flat head?) Not as easy as you'd think if they're flat head, they're the kind of part that's tricky to clamp in a vice securely, then the groove on each one would have to be centered and indicated accurately to mill along the existing groove, then milled carefully with a tiny (read, fragile) endmill. Have you thought about just getting some suitable sized button head bolts? They'd potentially have lower profile heads and be cheap if you could get them with the correct head diameter and thread length. Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Hmm, I would have drilled and threaded a hole/4 holes into a block of metal and screwed them into that with a bit of Loctite perhaps and then mill them over with regular bit. Then just used a saw if necessary to deepen the groove. It all makes sense in my head but I have limited machining experience and haven't messed with a mill for years. Link to post Share on other sites
Rob15 Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 That would probably work fine as well, I still think it'd be more work than it's worth even that way if an off the shelf button head screw could do the job though, most stock screws are literally pennies each. Link to post Share on other sites
Aitch Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 I've seen a few pictures in the 1911 thread of guns with VZ grips and screws, I'm thinking a set of VZ screws and bushing 'could' fit into aftermarket kits? do a search of the thread using VZ** as the search term, worth a punt. Link to post Share on other sites
-Drake- Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 I have VZ screws and bushings in my operator, If I have time tomorrow I'll compare them along side the original TM bits and see how they size up. Link to post Share on other sites
-Drake- Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 CKinnerley no pics but I did have chance to look over my VZ screws and bushing earlier, and compared to the TM the screws are pretty much exactly the same size. However the bushings are noticeably smaller and sit more flush than TM's do by a good few millimeter's. Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted February 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Sadly, unlike TM and Nova, HurricanE opted to just not do bushings and the threaded holes of the grips screws are an integral part of the frame, which means the only option are to either use airsoft screws or to find out the thread spec of RS screws and then hope to find an appropriate tap and re-profile the frame. Although option 3 would be to buy RS bushings and screws then use those in a TM frame with these grips and get different grips for the HurricanE. Hmm.... Link to post Share on other sites
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