FireKnife Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 Right so I thought this would be the best place for this simple (I hope) question. I plan to do a VSR G-Spec that will be running under 350 (more like around 300-320) to keep it both consistent, quiet and above all without a MED. Now the only thing I am having issue with is the irons that will both fit the rail and also (given the small rail) be able to work without blending with my eyes etc. So what would you suggest and more importantly where would I get them? I originally though of MP7 sights given the rail fitment, the option of dots or post and ring when up or down but I just can't find them for sale and I am not sure if they will work for what I have planned. EDIT: Also have considered HK416 sights too but would they be too close to use? So to all you bolt action users, what sights do you think would work and where is a good place to get them. Cost is not a major issue, but I would rather they are a part I can buy in the UK and will readily fit to a TM G-Spec rail. I am not after ones that fold so I can add a scope either but if they are close to the barrel (height over bore and all that) but I can still use them perfect. 'FireKnife' Link to post Share on other sites
bankz5152 Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 I think you can pick up WELL MP7 sights off UNCompany and a couple other places. At least you could last year. Failing that the KWA Pro Shop should be able to sort you out. Kriss Vector sights may work as they are kind of like a mix of MP7s and HK16s Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted March 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 Well oddly it looks like I might be able to get a set of clone MBUS from ''Magpul'' which might work too. Though KWA pro-shop is an idea. Trying to keep the sights tight to the gun or folding while also giving me a lower height over bore. While I am not a huge Magpul fan it looks like that might be an idea (que posts telling me that the clone ones are awful and will explode no doubt ). 'FireKnife' Link to post Share on other sites
scorch Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 Why not just make some regular rifle irons? Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted March 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 Because I wouldn't know where to start with 'making' them . I am after basically a nice and simple fit on to the existing rail and that is about it really. Folding would help to reduce snag as this is going to be more a jungle carbine kind of thing than a marksmans or (forgive me) ''sniper'' rifle so I plan on keeping the snag potential down. 'FireKnife' Link to post Share on other sites
Stuey Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 I'd want open sights, like an AK or a pistol. Helps keep the sight picture clean, low profile and fast. Link to post Share on other sites
Yams Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 MP7 flip ups or similar on the rails are wank to use. Make a sight out of a bit of plasticard similar to a normal vsr and stick it on the barrel like the normal vsr ones are, then raise up one of the bolts in the rail for a rear sight post. Alternatively a couple of dashes of white paint gives you an aiming mark or use the rifle for a bit and you soon won't need the sights. Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted March 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 Well I am going to need sights for at least rifle placement, I know at some ranges the rest is kind of 'up to me'. Though it seems that I have a few options but really, as much as I would like some open sights, fashioning them myself isn't going to be great and I would rather a bought and bolt on option than something I have to make overall. 'FireKnife' Link to post Share on other sites
shmook Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 Does it have to be irons? I ran an L96 with an aimpoint for a while, to good effect Link to post Share on other sites
scorch Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 See I you can scrounge up some VSR ones that someone took off. I would offer up mine, but I've put them back on mine to give it the hunting rifle look. Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted March 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 But that wouldn't work given that the barrel to the G-Spec is bull type where as the standard VSR tapers. Unless I am missing something which I usually am . 'FireKnife' Link to post Share on other sites
scorch Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 Bit of sandpaper to reprofile the curve and you're away. Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted March 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 Just not really what I am looking for on the final design. It just seems that for what I want irons on the rail would be better, as to whether they should be folding or not that depends how close they are etc. 'FireKnife' Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/army-force-mp7-front-sight.html#.Ux5XSt-wrfo http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/army-force-mp7-rear-sight.html#.Ux5Xmd-wrfp Will only give you pistol length sight radius though. Link to post Share on other sites
PianoBlack Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 Have you thought about getting a longer rail for your VSR-10 to increase the sight radius and give you more space for iron sights and a scope? -Piano Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 That would work. I don't know if there's a ready to install product like that though. Starting from a bog standard rail youd need to grind part of it to concave and drill out mounting holes. Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted March 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 Again too much work . This is meant more as a simple fit idea. However as for being limited to pistol sight radius length I can live with that. Seeing as how I manage to hit people using the little sights on a Series70 then on the VSR all should be good. Though first I do have to actually buy a G-Spec (which means sorting a defence when I move seeing as their is no option for a 'proper' defence as shops call it round here ) 'FireKnife' Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 tbh I think that for a gun running at 350fps max the small distance between the two sights will be fine. If you wanted to put something further foward I wonder if you could find a scope ring with a rail on top (as they do for rds) etc that had the same internal diamter as the gspec barrel? And if you wanted to explore the route of an rds an aimpoint t1 replica or a doctor style sight would still be low profile enough to suit your needs. I kinda want to do something simiar with an m1 carbine now... thanks Link to post Share on other sites
Dagonet Posted March 15, 2014 Report Share Posted March 15, 2014 Airgun sights. It wouldn't take much to butcher a cheap Crosman fibre optic or blade sight to fit on a G-spec can. (glue and pin, no recoil issues to deal with) Rear sight can be any 20mm rail fit MBUS type unit, or if you have a broken red dot sight, can the base unit (clamp unit) have an air rifle sight attached, again something like a Crosman Discovery rear sight, while not tacticool it can be functional and cheap. Link to post Share on other sites
PianoBlack Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 Again too much work . This is meant more as a simple fit idea. However as for being limited to pistol sight radius length I can live with that. Seeing as how I manage to hit people using the little sights on a Series70 then on the VSR all should be good. Though first I do have to actually buy a G-Spec (which means sorting a defence when I move seeing as their is no option for a 'proper' defence as shops call it round here ) 'FireKnife' I was actually thinking of the COTS versions made for M700s. A couple of different companies made them, if I recall correctly. -Piano Link to post Share on other sites
Katotaka Posted March 21, 2014 Report Share Posted March 21, 2014 http://www.wgcshop.com/wgc2008/main/product_detail1.php?search_From=searchItem&item=KA-SMB-16&search=searchItem&rs=vsr&catid=&cat=&view_choice=a + Sights of your choice Of yeah, I typed the above and I think I'm ridiculous, it's very pricey, Y not just go for reflex sights on original rail? BTW, I slapped a Docter sight on my spare-parts-built APS-2 and tried some plinking, it's kinda fun Link to post Share on other sites
farrasdevell Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 i would also opt for a narrow bodied rds or a 20mm x3 scope. If you must have irons try a shotgun ghost ring set. Link to post Share on other sites
evansy Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 Here's my g-spec with MP7 sights Personally I'd just go with a red dot. I've used one in the past with a TM Gspec running at the fps you're after and it worked pretty well. You should also play urban/cqb with that set up. The look on people's faces when you run around a corner to clear a room with a bolt action is priceless. Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted March 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 See MP7 or similar still looks better to me. I can see why people are saying red-dot but with the way I plan to use this irons would be more pratical and less likely to snag and catch. Saying that this is all an idea for when I get away from the -poor options up here, only a week or two to go then I can start applying, yay. 'FireKnife' Link to post Share on other sites
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