FireKnife Posted May 2, 2014 Report Share Posted May 2, 2014 Wow, the ONLY tm models I've handled are the ones you've listed above. I guess I must be more out of the loop than I thought lol... The magazine uses pins. Thank you, hmm that changes it a bit for me but still might give one a shot. As for the other TM models it is a little different to the HK45 but the only Marui models that I recall without such reinforcement of the slide catch area are the Desert Eagle (not that it needs it with that mass of plastic) and the older M9s. The safety on the marui is not true to RS. When the safety is engaged the trigger is disconnected and doesn't do anything at all. On the plus side, it should work well for cocked and locked. Well that works for me, so long as it can be easily cared cocked and locked then all the better (wish someone would make a Taurus PT92 now, cocked and locked Beretta clone with a frame safety, yes please). 'FireKnife' Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sacairsoftsn00py Posted May 2, 2014 Report Share Posted May 2, 2014 Hicapa 5.1 doesn't have the slide catch insert Sent from my SGH-M919 using Tapatalk Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kratisto Posted May 2, 2014 Report Share Posted May 2, 2014 (wish someone would make a Taurus PT92 now, cocked and locked Beretta clone with a frame safety, yes please). Your wish was granted a long time ago... by KWC/Cybergun: http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/kwc-taurus-pt99-co2-gbb-pistol-short-magazine-ver.html It's actually a cheap decent gun, the only real con it's the high FPS, but it can be lowered with a bit of GBB knowledge. Spare parts can be found here: http://www.skyproairsoft.com/prod_list.php?series_id=15 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stuey Posted May 2, 2014 Report Share Posted May 2, 2014 Thank you, hmm that changes it a bit for me but still might give one a shot. As for the other TM models it is a little different to the HK45 but the only Marui models that I recall without such reinforcement of the slide catch area are the Desert Eagle (not that it needs it with that mass of plastic) and the older M9s. Well that works for me, so long as it can be easily cared cocked and locked then all the better (wish someone would make a Taurus PT92 now, cocked and locked Beretta clone with a frame safety, yes please). 'FireKnife' The Deagle could do with some strengthening, the slide catch on mine stopped working shortly before the slide itself cracked. With TM's crappy metal, pinned mags are better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kagami Posted May 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2014 I don't know how I feel about the pinned mags. interestingly the baseplate is secured by the fill valve, which on mine was incredibly easy to remove when I tried, it was as if there was no resistance at all. I tried screwing it back in and there was no increasing level of resistance until the screw wouldnt turn anymore either....the mags don't leak though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stuey Posted May 2, 2014 Report Share Posted May 2, 2014 Wait so the mag is pinned but the fill valve holds...what? in? Sounds like they're well designed though, with my KWA mags the valves and screws were never very tight and they always held gas perfectly. Pinned is better for TM guns because they use soft alloy and eventually the threads will go...every time you disassemble one a fine metal powder falls out of the mag as the thread crumbles...a friend had a 226 mag explode on him after one too many disassembles, the bottom bit took a chunk out of his ceiling (my plan with my own Sig mags is never to open them). Pins are a bit of a pain but until TM start using better metal I prefer them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kagami Posted May 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 (edited) like i said the screw in fill valve secures the baseplate lol i guess thats true, does anyone know off the top of their heads any other tm models with pinned mags? Edited May 3, 2014 by kagami Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wingmann Posted May 3, 2014 Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 like i said the screw in fill valve secures the baseplate lol I don't see that in the diagram. There's only one threaded area in the valve and that's to hold the valve to the base. The base itself is held by the lower pins, or so it looks like. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted May 3, 2014 Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 There's a base plate, and there's a base plate Internal chamber plate and external mag plate. You are both right Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stuey Posted May 3, 2014 Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 So the gas seal is pinned, and the plastic bumper thing is held in by the valve? The M9 mags are pinned, as are the short (Detonics) 1911 mags. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kagami Posted May 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 (edited) what NonEx said lol yes, the external plastic baseplate is held in by the valve, part 102 is held in place by threading in 103 Edited May 3, 2014 by kagami Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deadmeat Posted May 4, 2014 Report Share Posted May 4, 2014 Used my HK45 in its first outing today. We had a CQB scenario so I put my RM4 ERG aside and went into the maze pistol only. Really enjoyed putting snappy rounds that went down entire corridors. That grip is just soooooo comfortable. Lovely kick on green which put a smile on my face. Looks like I'll keep using this HK45 as my preferred sidearm, so gonna have to sell some other pistols in my collection... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted May 5, 2014 Report Share Posted May 5, 2014 Pinned is better for TM guns because they use soft alloy and eventually the threads will go...every time you disassemble one a fine metal powder falls out of the mag as the thread crumbles...a friend had a 226 mag explode on him after one too many disassembles, the bottom bit took a chunk out of his ceiling (my plan with my own Sig mags is never to open them). Pins are a bit of a pain but until TM start using better metal I prefer them. See I have found quite the opposite, though for the most part my screwed together mags are 1911s and never let me done. Plus it means on the very rare occasion that one does start to leak all I do is unscrew, lube up the seals and it is good to go again. With a pinned mag that would take me ten times as long finding all the bits and sorting it out. Again though, that is mostly as I have never had an issue with them, even all the P226 ones I have had never split of showed signs of giving. I still might pick this up at some point though saying that. 'FireKnife' Quote Link to post Share on other sites
T.w.a.T. Posted May 5, 2014 Report Share Posted May 5, 2014 Mine is on the way, so soon I'll put few words together. Very much looking forward to try it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Im going space Posted May 5, 2014 Report Share Posted May 5, 2014 Delivery is set for friday, all together worked out at a saving for about the cost of one spare mag Quote Link to post Share on other sites
steelfallenangel Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 Glad there's finally a realiable option for HK45s. Always wanted to build one of those SAI HK45s but the KSC/KWA horror stories always had me steer clear away from any that went up for sale no matter how good the deal seemed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bankz5152 Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 What are these horro stories i keep hearing about? Ive seen nothing and mine has currently had about 2-3k through with nothing but awesome. On my phone, my spelling will suck. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kenxin Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 Might as well post it here, detonator is already working on a marui HK45 slide. Coming soon, apparently 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Inari Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 Normally I hate the two tone look...but I have to admit, that looks tasty Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Squad 701 Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 Normally I hate the two tone look...but I have to admit, that looks tasty That's just at prototype early stages, they sometimes post unfinished models in naked aluminium colours, it will probably be available in both colours eventually. But I'll be sticking with my KSC until the P30 or HK45c become available 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sacairsoftsn00py Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 Need a tomb raider conversion kit. Lol Sent from my SGH-M919 using Tapatalk Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stuey Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 They're USPs aren't they? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sacairsoftsn00py Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 Yes they were... Sent from my SGH-M919 using Tapatalk Quote Link to post Share on other sites
steelfallenangel Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 What are these horro stories i keep hearing about? Ive seen nothing and mine has currently had about 2-3k through with nothing but awesome. On my phone, my spelling will suck. There seemed to have been huge quality control problems with these pistols for pretty much the whole production run of them. Things such as the slide release literally eating the slide away to the point that it can no longer catch to the feed ramp deforming after only a magazine or two out of the box. If you go on the KWA Forum and go into the HK45 section there are just thread after thread of people having issues that new parts simply don't fix. Now a few people seemed to have gotten some that do just last forever but there is a serious issue that happened with the Hk45. Issues that don't effect the other models like the USP, USPc, or Tactical USP. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Im going space Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 I cant post the video as muh pc is dead (until monday) but on a fill from empty with no warmup time (~13C ambient) firing about 3 times a second, i ended up getting about 70 shots out the mag. (Colemans) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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