Revengeful_Lobster Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Hey guys, new to Arnie's, not so new to airsoft. I'm looking at buying a TM G36K recoil shock and would like to slap an AG36 on it, but I am having a hell of a time finding an AG36 that isn't S&T/Umarex. To make things more difficult, I don't even know what brand of AG36 would fit. According to the only person I could find with a TM G36K/AG36 the S&T needs a lot of modification to fit. I know ARES and STAR used to make AG36 launchers, but I can't find any in stock anywhere, and I still don't know if they would fit. What are my options? Link to post Share on other sites
ollie_ty Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Classic Army made one. That's your only other option. S&T ones can be had pretty cheap, why not just buy one and find out? Link to post Share on other sites
Revengeful_Lobster Posted July 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 I'm tempted to, but I'm not confident in my modification skills. I'm afraid I'll screw it up and be out $150, or maybe even damage the G36. My only source on fitting the S&T says that the handguard pins don't match and require drilling, and the metal barrel guide on the inside of the handgard needs to be filed down. There's also the possibility that I won't be able to attach any other handguards after tapping the new pins--severely limiting any modularity. For some strange reason I can't seem to find any CA launchers here in Japan. Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Ca is a clone of the star and whilst I havnt seen one myself i would assume that the s&t is aswell Link to post Share on other sites
Revengeful_Lobster Posted July 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 From what I understand the S&T is specifically for the WE G39 (which I would buy except I kind of want to play in the winter). Since word on the "street" is that the S&T requires modification to fit the TM, the S&T/WE must have different dimensions/pin placement. Link to post Share on other sites
Revengeful_Lobster Posted July 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Sorry to double-post.....is there no edit button? I can't find it... Anyway, It looks like eHobbyAsia has the ARES in stock. I think that should fit.....only problem is I don't have a credit card ....aaaaaand a Japanese blog claims the ARES won't fit either (mainly battery issues). I'm starting to wonder if these guys even know what they're doing... Link to post Share on other sites
ollie_ty Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 I've never heard the S&T version being made for WEs. Im certain it's just a copy, But WE seem to be the same spec as Ares G36s so maybe that's where the confusion started. Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 What specific mods did this guy do? Thinking about the issues mentioned; the star/ares and CA (presumably the s&t) will need filing down to accomodate the extra width of the flash hider. An easy job. as the other I'm not sure although the ag36 foregrip pin is shorter to accomodate the leaf sight. as for the batteries - the ag36 doesn't have room for a standard mini size battery. I use a stick-style battery but it is a pain to insert. My first AG36 was a second hand star. The owner had made a custom nunchuck with a plug inside one of the bottom foregrip holes so you could charge without removing the battery which was pretty cool. Link to post Share on other sites
Revengeful_Lobster Posted July 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Oh boy, battery issues. I was hoping not to get more batteries since the high-MaH smalls/sticks cost 4x more than they should and are unreliable. I've had 4 completely die on me and two spontaneously combust. This is pushing me further towards the WE G39K but I still have reservations about that.... The info I got was from a Japanese blog and it didn't go into any detail. He just said he had to drill holes for the pins--I'm assuming he means drilling holes into the body of the TM; I've never seen a G36 AEG sans handguard so I don't really know. The filing of the metal part had to have been for the flash hider to fit. Link to post Share on other sites
Pkekyo-Nor Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 I ran a STAR AG36 on my TM G36KA2 shakey-shakey rifle a few years back.The only modification that had to be made was to remove a small portion of the black plastic bit on the G36, that cups the *badger*s (if you will) of the battery in the rear of the handguard compartment.I ran mine with LiPo batteries inside the AG36 handguard. Do keep in mind that you will also need a small barrel extension (2-3cm or so) to make the flash hider clear of the handguard. Link to post Share on other sites
tquilha Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 @Revengeful lobster: if you like the WE G39, don't worry about winter. I've skirmished mine in winter, and it works. Just don't go full auto too long, and you'll be fine. Link to post Share on other sites
Revengeful_Lobster Posted July 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 @Revengeful lobster: if you like the WE G39, don't worry about winter. I've skirmished mine in winter, and it works. Just don't go full auto too long, and you'll be fine. If only I could find one with the carry-handle/scope. I really loved that part about the TM when I took one for a test-drive. How heavy are the mags? WE M4 mags are heavier than the real thing loaded with 30 live rounds. Link to post Share on other sites
tquilha Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 Not too heavy. Heavier than AEG mags, but you get used to them. Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Depending on how anal you are you will want a shorter barrel extension then one shown above... the flash hider should be roughly flush with the barrel of the launcher and you will need to feel down the lug accordingly... http://cfs6.blog.daum.net/image/34/blog/2008/01/15/19/14/478c87974ec04&filename=AG36%20gunner%20from%20Kampfschwimmer%20during%20the%20training[1].jpg http://world.guns.ru/userfiles/images/grenade/gl17/ag36-1.jpg http://www.hkpro.com/g36klauncher.jpg Link to post Share on other sites
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