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Would it not be possible to replace the pin the safety is on with the pin just the right length so it sits flush to the edges of the frame.. So technically the safety is still there and working but has no lever so is not physically functional?

 

No need for a new frame or reworked hammer mechanism surely? That is of course assuming the safety selector is on a rod/pin that runs the width of the frame, which I assume it is. 

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Would it not be possible to replace the pin the safety is on with the pin just the right length so it sits flush to the edges of the frame.. So technically the safety is still there and working but has no lever so is not physically functional?

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Can't imagine it'd be impossible really! Makes perfect sense!

 

Its possible yes, its just that either way it would involve a complete strip of the hammer mechanism to replace the central rod of the safety,

it would need almost perfect fitting end pieces to fit back into the frame to seal the space that's left empty.

 

I'll take photos tomorrow to give you a better idea of what it looks like, the point I was making is that the procedure won't be easy.

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It's not too hard to strip the hammer mech surely? Similar to a glock I would assume? At least it's possible for those who do want to make the effort. Personally I'm not fussed but I can see others are!

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I had a quick look today at the Marui M&P safety, the hammer mechanism is removed by taking out a roll-pin and a screw hidden under the back strap to release the mechanism from it's seating.

The mechanism comes out in one piece including the safety attached, the safety is easily removed and the gun will function normally, well it did for the few magazines I tested after removing it.

I hadn't got time to take the hammer mechanism itself apart, but it appears there was an internal support for the safety pin to go through.

A replacement aftermarket frame would be needed as spaces are left in the frame where the safeties were.

 

Cheers.

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The entire hammer mech may be in it's own housing, but it's not easily removed like on the Glock (since that can be removed with just one screw and one pin).

Super photos by the way, always great to see RS comparisons ;)

 

Cheers.

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I had a quick look today at the Marui M&P safety, the hammer mechanism is removed by taking out a roll-pin and a screw hidden under the back strap to release the mechanism from it's seating.

 

So that's what that screw was for lol.

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I had a quick look today at the Marui M&P safety, the hammer mechanism is removed by taking out a roll-pin and a screw hidden under the back strap to release the mechanism from it's seating.

The mechanism comes out in one piece including the safety attached, the safety is easily removed and the gun will function normally, well it did for the few magazines I tested after removing it.

I hadn't got time to take the hammer mechanism itself apart, but it appears there was an internal support for the safety pin to go through.

A replacement aftermarket frame would be needed as spaces are left in the frame where the safeties were.

 

Cheers.

 

Maybe rs frame plugs could be adapted. $3 per side.

 

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No compatibility with the WE mags. The base plate is at a completely different angle interestingly.. And the feed lips are slightly different, mag catch is in the wrong place etc.. Just not gonna happen!

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No compatibility with the WE mags. The base plate is at a completely different angle interestingly.. And the feed lips are slightly different, mag catch is in the wrong place etc.. Just not gonna happen!

 

So WE baseplate compatibility is gone too?

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I'll be honest I didn't try that and have since sold my WE. But from just looking at them it's completely the wrong size and shape. I doubt you're gonna be able to swap. Shame as I would've wanted to put some of the 10-8 base plates on there if I could!

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OK, back with my RS M&P and an update.

 

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Backstraps are not drop-in compatible - there's an extra nub on the RS that probably needs to be shaved off. RS left, TM right.

 

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Mag release may look similar, but it isn't a practical drop-in swap.

 

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They fit, but there's a massive gap between the catch and the frame. Makes the mag release wobble a ton.

 

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Also the catch doesn't lock the mag up all the way, which makes the gun lose slide lock function.

 

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Same problem w/ the stock S&W M&P catch (previous one was a 21stCG Catalyst mag catch).

 

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So, in summary:

 

1. Grips aren't swappable without a bit of filing.

2. Mag catches are practically not swappable.

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Ehobby asia has them in stock as well. Just placed an order for a couple....

 

 

Side note...in case it matters...

 

There are no rubber recoil buffers that the front of the slide slams onto....so that means that the plastic slide may be hitting the metal rail frame of the gun.

 

For those that use higher pressure gas like green gas...it may be worth knowing.

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In case it has not been mentioned....some brass (inner barrel) showing through the breach....pretty cool IMO.

 

 

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Correction.....it's not the inner barrel. Looking back at the previous photo, it might just be a gold colored adhesive of some sort...or maybe even an actual brass insert of some sort. Either way, the lil bit of brass showing is by design.

 

 

Edit:

 

Removed the right thumb safety. Left thumb safety clicks into place but does not lock the trigger into safe. What the left thumb safety does now is that it covers the hole that would have been left if it was removed as well. It clicks. .. It stays in place... But no safety function.

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