Safeword Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 APS CAM870 AOW (Picture heavy) Also known as the Serbu Super Shorty, RS made of either a Mossberg or a Remington 870. This airsoft replica looks mostly like the Remington cause of the safety button, but the front grip is wrong either if its a Mossberg or Remington but I understand why they had to make it like this. Ordering Ordered it from Airsofttiger111hk, easy ordering and about 9 days waiting from it left HK til it was at my door. I payed 422$ for the gun and shipping. The gun alone on that site cost 355$. The Box I do not have the box to show, they flipped it around so it looked like a regular cardboard box on the outside and the real box inside and so much damn tape I ruined the box opening it but I have to say, it looked just like a Umarex box for some reason It comes with the shotgun itself and a shell catcher, 2x shells, 50 wads and paper, and the tool to fill the shells with gas. First impression Its so damn small, Its really heavy for its size but not to heavy, it feels good in the hand and its really maneuverable. No wobble except the front grip (and that was expected) but it doesn't feel weak in any way. The front grip is spring loaded, just pull it down to flip up or down. Cocking the gun makes a really nice sound, its a little hard in the beginning but I guess it will get easier over time. Loading the shells into the gun takes no effort, It got room for one shell in the chamber and two in the mag tube. Bought a couple extra shells, the two blue are in the box and comes with the gun. Not much of trademarks other than on the left and right side of the barrel: The gun also features a thread protector in the front. One thing I found strange that disappointed me was that I had bought a 2" flash hider for this, it says on APS's website that the flash hiders are for any 870 shotguns as long as they have a threaded barrel but my didnt fit, it's about 1-2mm to big to catch on the threads on the gun. I have emailed APS about this. Final thoughts I love it, I first thought it was way to expensive but I still ordered it and I cant say I regret it at all. It is well worth the money. But is it skirmishable? If its CQB only and you have enough shells I think one would get a lot of fun with this. Sins the barrel is so short and theres no inner barrel I am really curious about the performance, I'm in the middle of moving so I couldn't test it out today unfortunately. I will update when I get an answer from APS about the threaded barrel and the flash hider not fitting. This was my first overview so I'm sorry for anything wrong , I'm not that good at english 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bankz5152 Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 Awesome Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BioRage Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 GOD DAMNIT. That thread protector is a must need on a 14" pls. Very nice review, you may be the first one to get it haha. That's a shame on the fitment of flash hider though.. I also ordered one for my friend.. I thought the Serbu came with three shells? :S Quote Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted December 2, 2014 Report Share Posted December 2, 2014 So why did they have to change the foregrip design? Can't see why they couldn't have just copied the real one straight away. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mvirtue Posted December 2, 2014 Report Share Posted December 2, 2014 Why are you doing this to me? My wallet is already hurting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Safeword Posted December 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2014 Update on why the flash hider doesn't fit, I got answer from APS today and they said that Airsofttiger111hk F'ed up and this should be a pre-order. The gun I bought was a sample for advertisement and photos sent out to retailers, it's not a final version, everything works as it should except they didn't finalize the threads on the barrel before sending out the samples. So APS said they will send me a new barrel in late December when the gun is officially released with no charge And they congratulated me for being the first non retailer in the world to own one So when your buying it after December, it will be the final version and the flash hider will fit! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bankz5152 Posted December 2, 2014 Report Share Posted December 2, 2014 Oh wow thats pretty cool! Also that is outstanding customer service from APS. On my phone my spelling will suck Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted December 2, 2014 Report Share Posted December 2, 2014 Haha, that's pretty funny and epic. Also, yeah APS customer service is top notch! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BioRage Posted December 2, 2014 Report Share Posted December 2, 2014 LOL. Tiger will be getting in trouble. APS finally got back to me after my 3 week order delay. They stated they will express ship my order cause of that (shipped last night). Woo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mvirtue Posted December 2, 2014 Report Share Posted December 2, 2014 Congrats on having a collectors item Quote Link to post Share on other sites
castigador Posted December 2, 2014 Report Share Posted December 2, 2014 Very nice, may I be rude and ask you how long and what the weight is? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Safeword Posted December 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2014 The gun is 42 cm and weight is about 1,8 kilo. Just for fun, a picture with the gun compared to my underarm, I am 181cm high so I have average arms but this thing is short! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
castigador Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Thank you, I am having trouble choosing between the serbu or sf model short, but less rounds and being stuck with the front, or longer with 2 more rounds and more options for the forend Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Pro tip: Get full size and rebuild to shorty with parts! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BioRage Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Pro tip: Get full size and rebuild to shorty with parts! X2. Unless you want markings. Check out the APS thread soon on Gas section, will be posting comparison of the Magnum body vs the SF. SF has "SF trades." If you aren't into long guns, get the SF and build off that, I would of done that if I didn't get a good deal on the Magnum. ($450 CDN + 9 shells). Also SF has Gen 2 Bolts, vs the Magnum has Gen 1. (I'm sure the newer Magnums will have Gen 2 bolts too) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
castigador Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 I have read the 'full length' thread. I am not in favor on buying the magnum as I dont need half the stuff that is on that gun. I want something which is short, but which can take a full stock once I have bought enough shells to use it as a primary. Honestly speaking my mind goes to the SF but the heart to the serbu Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 I'm just saying it's a lot easier to rebuild a full size to shorty than the other way around. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BioRage Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 I'm just saying it's a lot easier to rebuild a full size to shorty than the other way around. Agreed, taking the magnum down takes less then 1 minute. (Outer barrel/Spring/Mag tube) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Safeword Posted December 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 Just a small update, I disassembled it today (thats half the fun, right?) and it was really easy, just screwed off the cap under the barrel (By the way, this is a remington cause the mossberg does not have that cap under the barrel) Took out the spring and the barrel was easy to take out. Cleaned it and used silicone oil in it so the cocking is a lot smoother now. I also got to do a accuracy test and as expected, this is for really close quarters only. I was shooting a human size cardboard cutout from 15 meters and if I were lucky then maybe 5-6 of the BB's would hit. The spread on this makes it hard to hit anything farther away than 10 meters really, but within 10 meters this is gold. I am guessing that in the right scenario you would be able to take out 2 maybe 3 people with one shot cause of the spread. It sounds not that good when i'm writing it but on a CQB field, playing tactical and with the loud bang it makes and the excess gas making it look like smoke from the barrel, even if you dont hit anything you will still have the time of your life Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bankz5152 Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 Also the safe on a mossberg is on the rear of the receiver, secondly the other two APS shottys are based off 870s why would this be different ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 I have posted some info on playing CQB with my shorty "full size". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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