icolater Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 (edited) It works well for me, I cut down the routers that came with the merlin. It took awhile but work well after a few *fruitcage* ups. The routers provided are needed for optimum performance as the hole that lets the gas threw is a different shape to the standard marui type routers the merlin's nozzle has a different shape hole to the stock marui routers so the merlins nozzle will only line up perfectly with the special routers provided. I'm using a nova 1911 with mine and high flow valves, the routers only need to be cut if your 1911 has tight tolerances, it's designed for steel slides and co2 and most steel stock guns available have looser tolerances. Plus it takes a while for the merlin to bed in, give it 200 bbs or so and it works much better. What set up are you using? Edited April 9, 2015 by icolater Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Slono Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 (edited) Right now I'm using a ProG4 slide, Airsoft masterpiece frame and Airsoft masterpiece skater grip. With the stock BBU in it performs beautifully. Edited April 9, 2015 by Slono Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vilerk Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 The stock TM routers work the best for me, Merlin routers give less kick. The shape of the hole isn't really important, it's that it sits further forward by ~2mm. Make sure when you screw it in from the back the nozzle isn't pushed forward, and if you're using a protection pad, try without it. Also, try shooting the gun without the mag release, holding the mag at different heights each time to see if it improves anything. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
volante Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 Thanks for advises. I'll send you Slono PM for help. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RacingManiac Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 Does this work with the something like the Nova SAI kit? I've no idea the custom rear sight on that kit is similar to MEU or normal 1911.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
icolater Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 Got low routers today thanks to the creator of this wonderful product. Works so well it a dream. I think it will work with nova sai kits. I have one in a nova lapd. 1911 bbu are better in nova kits from my experience because the rear sight screw has a place to sit. The meu bbu has a hole in that spot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wolfgeorge Posted April 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 Unfortunately no. You could modify the bbu but that's pretty hard as the material of the bbu is steel. I have mod aluminum or stock bbus to fit on MEU style rear sights tho.. its doable but trick. Wolf Quote Link to post Share on other sites
icolater Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 What the nova sai needs meu style bbu? Surely not!! As it is advertised as a marui 1911 kit. I could be wrong cause I don't have one but it's weird they would do that for one kit. Are you sure ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
icolater Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 Cause I was thinking of picking one up at some stage before there gone, and all my lightweight bbu's are 1911 style. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
icolater Posted April 24, 2015 Report Share Posted April 24, 2015 Sorry for so many posts, but yea these are for the meu bbu only! My bad sorry. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
daloonie Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 Changed my hop to a new unbroken TM replacement and fired a few shots. Sadly it was still sluggish. Noticed my mag lips were cracked so swapped it for some shooters design ones. Needed a tiny bit of molding edges removed and the gas router fit very snugly. Now it kicks much better on green gas. Nozzle works like a charm and seats very tight in the hop chamber. Will extend fully and even give a feel able amount of resistance when slowly cocking the gun. Final judgement, yes it works with older AirsoftSurgeon slide and frame kits and with the included higher gas routers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RacingManiac Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Sorry for so many posts, but yea these are for the meu bbu only! My bad sorry. So SAI kit only works for MEU BBU? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
icolater Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Yea I think so, I have been told that the sights on the sai commander only allow for the meu bbu, which is a shame because better options are available for the 1911 bbu. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RacingManiac Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Still trying to see what parts I am going to need to scratch build a SAI kit...I feel like might just be easier to buy a MEU to take parts out of... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wolfgeorge Posted May 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Yes fellas the NOVA SAI kit requires the MEU BBU.You can mod the Hi capa bbu but modding a $120 BBU is risky! At least for me!The Merlin will fit in the Airsoft Masterpiece SAI slide kits... ! I have those kits too! Cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RacingManiac Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 What exactly is the difference of the MEU BBU vs the 1911/Hi-Capa one? I've built so far I think 5 Hi-Capa/1911 guns and I've not had a MEU at all...I took a stock BBU I have and tried to see the difference to the SAI kit and is it just one of the rear "leg" of the BBU that needed to be cut? Or is it something else? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
icolater Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 There is a hole on the top of the meu bbu to allow for a part of the rear sight to fit. The 1911 bbu does not have this. Modding is achievable but I have never had to do it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wolfgeorge Posted May 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 You can see here the difference The MEU BBU is the top one Sorry couldn't find better photo. Wolf Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wolfgeorge Posted May 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Here's a better photo..MEU BBU Hi Capa BBU's Wolf Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vilerk Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 Replacement aluminum valve snapped after ~800 rounds on propane, in 75F weather. Going to try making one out of drill rod or stainless steel, hopefully that doesn't blow the front of the nozzle off. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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