RIP Top Gear *sobs uncontrollably*

[paranoiddroid]

The bit im interested in finding out about is the boozing in the pub and the chopper bit.... as that radically changes the issue and what the man's character is.

 

The old top gear was more serious and dry and didn't really work quite as well. The other issue was after Tiff crashed a privately owned car on a test due to being arrogant enough to ignore the owners stipulations and then crashed it followed by the BBC refusing to pay up due to said misconduct. They struggled to source cars. The power of the name wasn't as high at the time and so they used allot of privately owned cars for tests.

 

Still vicky could come back which would be immense.

 

[NeoVeNoM]

Didn't the BBC simply sack Clarkson to set an example (a hypocrite one) because of all the scandals they have been covering up over the years?

Regardless, punching members of staff in general will get you across the line.

[Danke]

The BBC sacked Clarkson because they hated him. His TV character is the opposite of the modern progressive man that effete liberal progressive hold up as progress. It was like he;d stepped out of a time machine from the 50s.

If it's true that he had a drinking problem he would certainly not be the first entertainment figure with one. The figures behind the scenes who pull the strings have a plan B for that. The give the star a handler and they pack him or her of to a clinic for a month to dry them out and then issue a mea culpa and carry on offending the easily outraged and churning out the profits.

Truth be told from reading his books he was getting sick of Top Gear. It's not like you'd just pop round the office one day a week, film for an hour (because it's an hour show right) and then off to the local.

[harborne blue]

The reason the BBC fired Clarkson is simple: he verbally and physically abused an employee. That's instant dismissal for anyone, for gross misconduct followed by a police investigation. Simple.

 

It doesn't matter if he did it because he has a drinking problem, that the BBC had it in for him or if mama took him of the tit too soon when he was a baby: you strike a fellow employee, you get sacked.

 

End of.

 

This has been coming for years: he pushed and pushed and pushed, just like Chris Evans did back in the 90s, and eventually get what was inevitably coming. Entertaining presenter though he was, Clarkson was at the end at least an arrogant, over bearing drunken bully who got what he thoroughly deserved.

[aznriptide859]

In the meantime it seems James has been teaching the world how to cook.

 

 

BRB, time to cook.

[Danke]

Glad the police in the UK have solved all those other crimes and can put their energy into investigating atrocities like this.

 

Reminds one of the when the USA locked up Tommy Chong for all those pothead movies he made. Another monster.

[Habakure]

Yeah, police shouldn't investigate a person being assaulted. What would that say to the generally public if they did investigate, don't hit people or you'll get arrested. That would be a bad example.

[hitmanNo2]

No one asked them to investigate.  The victim has no interest in pursuing it.  How is that not a stupid, pointless waste of police time and money?

[Danke]

He admitted to hittng him. What's to investigate?

 

In short nothing; but since they can't nick him for those other crimes he "must" have done let's charge him with possessionof the big brown table down at the police station.

[Habakure]

There are a lot of things that are a waste of police time. Something this high profile has to be investigate. By the way an investigation can be just interviews to clarify what happened.

 

It's hilarious, damned if you do and damned if you don't. There have been many cases were a celebrity has not been investigated for assault and it's all 'do your job'. Then a celebrity hits someone, police investigate due to complaints (not made by the bbc or the victim) and it's all 'ggrrrr, wasting money'.

 

Personally, we don't know the extent of the investigation, it's a shame that a person has been assaulted and we think it shouldn't be investigated, and that it's a waste of time/money.

[hitmanNo2]

There isn't anything to clarify though.  The BBC did a massive investigation, questioning e.t.c. and published the results. There is literally nothing for the police to do.

 

In the grand scheme of things, it was little bust up, possibly alcohol induced, resulting in a split lip that has been completely resolved.  Think of all the *suitcase* that goes down at chucking out times at pubs and clubs.  Do the police follow up and prosecute all of those?  Of course not.  They're only sniffing around as it's so publicized.  Any police interference is an offense misuse of our tax money.

 

If the victim wanted the police to pursue, then fair enough.  I fully respect that decision, but that is not the case.

 

These instances where a celebrity has assaulted someone I'm sure have been cleared up one way or another.  Either a pay off or prosecution.  No victim of a celebrity assault is just going to sit there and take it.  Pay up or get the police involved.  If nothing comes of the police involvement, well that says something about our justice system.

[Cannonfodder80]

Isn't it up to the Crown Prosecution Service not the police to decide whether to prosecute or not?

[LordElpus]

and is it the same police force that also invited the BBC when they raided Sir Cliff's house?

[Desolation mkII]

Whoever was responsible for that should have been *fruitcage* jailed. That was an utter disgrace.

[hudsons89]

So Clarkson has pulled out of HIGNFY.

[hitmanNo2]

He is a pretty meh HIGNFY host anyway imo.

[paranoiddroid]

Ok... If the victim doesn't want to prosecute what possible right/interest does the CPS have to prosecute.

 

I get the issue of victim intimidation and stuff but.... I question to whose benefit the CPS are working in this kind of case.

 

And the prosecution is going to be politically motivated as there have been a *fruitcage*ton of golden boys and girls over the years who can assault people and get 'the CPS don't feel it's in the public interest' but as soon as someone who is politically unpopular with the left wing does something the knives come out.

 

It's a well documented part of Alinsky's playbook 'never let a crisis go to waste and help set your opponents up with a moral code and ensure they follow it to the letter regardless of your side's indescretions'

 

Yes Clarkson pushed things and was on the edge several times but plenty of other people do the same the only difference being the type of fan base and the character they play.

 

Several things the BBC have done over the years have disgusted me the Libelling of Clarkson as 'just like Saville' is one that I am particularly disgusted by.

 

And the raid thing should have resulted in a serious ethics investigation and charges! To be honest seeing people named and never able to escape from causation they are acquitted of should the raids be announced or people be named until conviction?

[shmook]

Cps will only go for a conviction if they think it's an easy win.

 

If not, they will bin the case or knock the charge down to something easier to prove.

[Habakure]

They've binned it (as of last week).

[shmook]

Binned top gear?

[hitmanNo2]

The case against Clarkson.

[shmook]

Ah, yep. Knew that.

 

My statement was more of a general thing about the cps

[paranoiddroid]

in a *fruitcage*ton of cases people walk because the CPS isn't willing to prosecute because it won't end in a sentence worth anything and the system isn't a deterrent to career criminals. The only people who are in fear of the system is people with careers and money and who can't have a record it has no power over people that don't give a toss about it.

[shmook]

The cps are why people hate cops and the justice system.

[paranoiddroid]

The cps are why people hate cops and the justice system.

And why morale is poo at beat level based on talking to a few BTP coppers I have reported stuff too loads of evidence a d people willing to swear complaints about begets intimidating people and the CPS do nowt because it's 'not in the public interest'