Philbucknall Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 (edited) So here it is! I don't know if this is the first one in the UK but it's got to be close as I've not seen any other photos or reviews to date. The box is obviously influenced by 24 but holds the gun securely and comes with the gun, mag, rail adaptor and a spare flat base plate The gun itself feels light without the mag but it is very well put together and feels great in the hand as you'd expect with a TM product and one modelled on an iconic HK handgun. The finish is great with nice trademarks including the updated USP markings on the pistol grip as is true to the real ones I've been told. The action of firing it is fantastic and even on 144a it emptied the mag easily and had a crisp recoil. Everything moved as it should and the fit between parts was excellent. FPS was checked by WGC prior to shipping and the mark it on the front of the box at 288. I haven't checked the range yet but the hop is the new style so reachable via the breach. The slide lock also engages on a metal insert so it'll save the slide getting chewed up. Overall 9/10 as I don't know what the range is like and there's no spare mags available as of yet. Edited May 9, 2015 by Philbucknall 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vortix Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 Do you, by any chance, own an IMI Defense holster, and if so, could you check if it would fit without modification? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Philbucknall Posted May 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 I don't I'm afraid. I make my own holsters under Clearwater holsters so I'll be knocking up a kydex multicam rig for it over the weekend. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DeltaZero Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 DAMN YOU MAN! YOU ARE COSTING ME MONEY!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vortix Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 I don't I'm afraid. I make my own holsters under Clearwater holsters so I'll be knocking up a kydex multicam rig for it over the weekend. No worries Quote Link to post Share on other sites
curlyboy Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 I am now conflicted I have a KSC USP compact that is getting on (pre system 7) and I love TM pistols but is it worth getting this?? Nice review how is the trigger pull as the KSC is always a bit spongy? Curlyboy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harborne blue Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 DAMN YOU MAN! YOU ARE COSTING ME MONEY!!! You should try playing with / against him: Phil costs us all money! He has all the best toys! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DeltaZero Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 Don't I know it! I've now ordered one! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hattrick Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 I was kinda expecting ambi controls. (at least ambi slide stop) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Habakure Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 How come you were expecting ambi controls? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Philbucknall Posted May 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 I am now conflicted I have a KSC USP compact that is getting on (pre system 7) and I love TM pistols but is it worth getting this?? Nice review how is the trigger pull as the KSC is always a bit spongy? Curlyboy The trigger feels nice and yes, it is worth getting this. It's just so pointable as well but if you've a USPc already you'll know how easy they are to shoot! You should try playing with / against him: Phil costs us all money! He has all the best toys! wait til you see my new Scar H recoil Stew;) Don't I know it! I've now ordered one! I knew you wouldn't be able to resist!! I was kinda expecting ambi controls. (at least ambi slide stop) why? The real one doesn't have em!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Philbucknall Posted May 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 Just had it apart and a few notes. The recoil spring is a double sprung assembly and there is no rubber buffer or anything to mitigate any forces. Whilst the kick is flipping great on propane I think I'll run it on 144a until the winter roles round again! The hop unit looks like it has plenty of adjustment and should cope with some heavier BB's quite easily. The slide has a reinforced section that the slide lock engages on and it's just under the label for hop adjustment The mag is the pinned type of base, which I know some people don't like. Everything else looks good and well made as you'd expect from TM. The slide is reinforced by the looks of it even though the plastic is quite thin in places. The finish is nice and not shiny more satiny as it's not quite totally Matt. That's all for now. If anyone wants to know anything I've missed let me know. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aznriptide859 Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 So glad TM decided to reinforce the slide lock area; definitely a good feature on my M&P. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pforcerecon Posted May 13, 2015 Report Share Posted May 13, 2015 Can't wait till this hits stateside! Hopefully there will be plenty of upgrades to follow this as well Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Philbucknall Posted May 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2015 Did a quick test fire in my garden which is rough 70' from the patio door to the bottom most corner. The BB's easily reached it when the hop had been dialled in. It was a blast to shoot even on 144a. It emptied the mag and locked back once it was empty. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cire_ Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 So i just got mine 2 days ago. I've got a big issue with loading the magazine with gas, neither of my gas cans seems to be long enough to make it seal.. And if i compare to other gas guns i've got (not tm tho) the USPc is alot deeper down then the others. I even took the magazine bottom off and it still can't seal enough (tho, it get some gas inside). I've tried 2 diffrent gas cans (one with lower psi that i was gonna use) but neither seems to work. Anyone else got this issue? The can i use, which is not long enough to seal it.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DeltaZero Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 I almost bought one last night.. and then I found UAC released some nice shiney upgrade parts for the TM M&P9 which I just had to have! :/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Inspector Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 Would anyone mind taking a pic that owns one with the flat baseplate attached to see what that looks like? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Philbucknall Posted May 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Will do tomorrow. For gas I'm using abbey 144a and have not had a problem filling the mag at all. Yes, it vents a little at first but it's always filled okay. No extension tube needed or anything like that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zereck Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 So i just got mine 2 days ago. I've got a big issue with loading the magazine with gas, neither of my gas cans seems to be long enough to make it seal.. And if i compare to other gas guns i've got (not tm tho) the USPc is alot deeper down then the others. I even took the magazine bottom off and it still can't seal enough (tho, it get some gas inside). I've tried 2 diffrent gas cans (one with lower psi that i was gonna use) but neither seems to work. Anyone else got this issue? It's not necessearly the length but the width of the hole of the gas can's nozzle could be the issue. I had similar problem with my Marui MP7 mags tought that my green gas nozzle(Smart Gas) is not long enough to reach the valve, but when I used an Abbey 144a can, it reached it easily despite having the same nozzle length as the green gas can. Still if you think the length is the issue you could get something like this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 It can also be the cheap metal nozzles on GG cans. I find that the plastic nozzles on some cans fills better in my Maruis but the WE and HFCS guns I had worked better on the metal nozzles 'FireKnife' Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Philbucknall Posted May 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Would anyone mind taking a pic that owns one with the flat baseplate attached to see what that looks like? Sorry had to build a wardrobe so haven't had a chance yet. I'll try to do it in a bit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Philbucknall Posted May 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 I tried to get the base plate off but it wouldn't budge. I did put the other base plate in the mag well and it looked quite good but not "classic" USPc if you know what I mean. It also wasn't as comfy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cire_ Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 Would anyone mind taking a pic that owns one with the flat baseplate attached to see what that looks like? https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4I6lkeIOccEN0F4a1hFX2IzdHM/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4I6lkeIOccEbEdxWjFlSnRvbk0/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4I6lkeIOccEa2FXVzBCMHVVYzA/view?usp=sharing I can't use the flat one tho, too big hands and it really does feel bad with the flat one, but great with the nomral one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Philbucknall Posted May 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 Yes!!! Mags ordered. Hopeful that they'll arrive in the next week or so so I can use it in June. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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