Yoroiden Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 Kid recently brought in an AK with a hopup that "didn't work": Found this one about a month ago, owner said it sounded like the motor was unwinding with each shot. Still don't know how it didn't jam: Here's double trouble: Found these in an MG that kept jamming up: Link to post Share on other sites
ED-SKaR Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 I'll just let you read this attachment, clearly this guy thinks it's 1996 not 2016. [edit] ... How do I attachment? Link to post Share on other sites
Wild_XIII Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Ah, the old heavier weight trick. This is why my local uses it's own mags loaded with .2's for what guns they can. Link to post Share on other sites
jal3 Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Ah, the old heavier weight trick. This is why my local uses it's own mags loaded with .2's for what guns they can. Ah, the old not measuring joule right trick. That's why our local sites measure with the BB's people use instead of 0.20. Link to post Share on other sites
ED-SKaR Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Ah, the old not measuring joule right trick. That's why our local sites measure with the BB's people use instead of 0.20.Just how much energy creep does an airsoft gun generate? We need solid data for a variety of AEG, GBB and spring rifles with different ammo weights. I can't imagine it's a whole heap of difference, it would be interesting to have a real insight. Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted September 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Depends on the gun. The more air/propellant over barrel volume, the higher the potential. Seen as high as half a Joule in some cases. Link to post Share on other sites
ED-SKaR Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Seen as high as half a Joule in some cases. I'm very surprised at that! Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLite Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 I once managed to get 1.2J worth of creep but I was pissing about to try and get that. G36c length barrel with a full sr25 cylinder, 0.5j on 0.12g but 1.7j on 0.43g. Link to post Share on other sites
jal3 Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Just how much energy creep does an airsoft gun generate? We need solid data for a variety of AEG, GBB and spring rifles with different ammo weights. I can't imagine it's a whole heap of difference, it would be interesting to have a real insight. Measuring with the wrong weight is inherently wrong. The degree varies. All gas guns, hpa, bolt action rifles, ALWAYS. Lot of the bolties i see shoot like 2,5J with a .20 and 3.5J with a .40. AEG's, sometimes, but it can go both ways. If your AEG is leaky and shoots 1J with a .30 and 1.3J with a .20...then it'll chrono hot yet not shoot hot in game. Or if it's really airtight, it'll do maybe 1.12J with 0.20, then 1.25J with 0.28. Then you could be over the limit when playing but not when chronoing. It just makes the most sense to chrono everything as is. Makes it simpler for people. And these days, it's quite often tiny details. Many people are close to the limit. And the limit should be THE LIMIT. If the player wants to play hot *suitcase* and be 3 fps under 350, fine. But who's fault is it when he's over then. I hate when people moan about this. If the player don't have the skillset to be that close to the limit yet be under...then stay away from the limit like everyone else! Tired of handling entitled players like these Link to post Share on other sites
Lone_Bullet Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 It's a common sense thing. If the player is surprised and due to weather or so it shoots 2-5 fps over, let him be. On the other hand tell all your players you'd prefer them 10fps under the limit. In that case they're mostly safe. I don't care if the oponent shoots me with a 280 or 370 fps aeg. But there need to be limits for the weak of minded. Sent from my C6603 using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted September 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2016 Guy (in FB, where else) asks if there's an app you download or some such to measure muzzle velocity. People reply to get a chrono. Guy reluctant to spend, asks for alternate methods, is ushered to using the old soda can chrono. Guy comes back showing this and begs for people to extrapolate the data. Link to post Share on other sites
Crying Scum Posted September 25, 2016 Report Share Posted September 25, 2016 Guy comes back showing this and begs for people to extrapolate the data. Please no more Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted September 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2016 Aaand it gets worse. People are actually trying to give fps estimates and as one would expect, numbers are varying by over 100fps on account of them being pulled out of their buts. Link to post Share on other sites
Got Wood? Posted September 25, 2016 Report Share Posted September 25, 2016 Who the Eff buys canned tuna anyway Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted September 25, 2016 Report Share Posted September 25, 2016 Personally, I find canned tuna to be a really handy thing to have in the cupboard. Feeling lazy for dinner? Tuna, mayo and cheesy pasta. Add some fried, chopped onion if you can be arsed. You're done in 11 mins. Of course it's no tuna steak but that requires time, money, planning and effort. Link to post Share on other sites
shmook Posted September 25, 2016 Report Share Posted September 25, 2016 As above, canned tuna is very handy, and tasty! Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted September 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2016 Who the Eff buys canned tuna anyway Normal people? Link to post Share on other sites
ED-SKaR Posted September 25, 2016 Report Share Posted September 25, 2016 I've only ever bought tuna once that didn't come in a can, and that was super expensive tuna steak thing that tasted exactly like every other tuna I've had. Link to post Share on other sites
DeltaZero Posted September 25, 2016 Report Share Posted September 25, 2016 I've got canned tuna in my sandwiches for work tomorrow.. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites
Got Wood? Posted September 25, 2016 Report Share Posted September 25, 2016 Maybe it's because I hate tuna then! And most people I know do too! Link to post Share on other sites
shmook Posted September 25, 2016 Report Share Posted September 25, 2016 How? it's yummy! Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted September 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2016 Ok, back on topic, the guessing game has now reached anywhere from 400 to 600fps. And this is of course well after the OP already stated the measured fps (450) using an actual chronograph instead of Facebook. Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted September 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2016 From the place that just keeps on giving: guy asks if this "Tokyo Marui 1911 full metal spring type" is a good deal or not. Link to post Share on other sites
Cannonfodder80 Posted September 26, 2016 Report Share Posted September 26, 2016 Tbh the only reason I'm in most airsoft fb groups is to get a cheap laugh at idiots Link to post Share on other sites
Colin_The+Ferret Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 Guy (in FB, where else) asks if there's an app you download or some such to measure muzzle velocity. People reply to get a chrono. Guy reluctant to spend, asks for alternate methods, is ushered to using the old soda can chrono. Guy comes back showing this and begs for people to extrapolate the data. If someome said there was an app that measured FPS by shooting at your phone screen, some tard would believe it. Link to post Share on other sites
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