NonEx Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 I'm just gonna go with the RedWolf NightHawk version instead. Possibly get the stainless cyberfuuu later. Link to post Share on other sites
Crying Scum Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 The only thing I will do on Nighthawk covert ops is to get a deep laser engraving on those markings, once I can afford the gun Link to post Share on other sites
garry Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 That stainless version looks nice. My main concern as it's KWC would be lack of spares. I know several people who have broken loading nozzles on the .177bb Kwc 1911 and just can't find spares. Likewise, their Luger seems to wear the sear very quickly, and again no spares availability? Their parts don't seem to be cross compatible with any other guns? I wouldn't really want a paperweight after 2-3k rounds. Link to post Share on other sites
mimesis Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 http://www.skyproairsoft.com/about.php Link to post Share on other sites
garry Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 http://www.skyproairsoft.com/about.php Thanks, I know about them, but many of the parts never show as being in stock? Link to post Share on other sites
k.a Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 That stainless version looks nice. My main concern as it's KWC would be lack of spares. I know several people who have broken loading nozzles on the .177bb Kwc 1911 and just can't find spares. Likewise, their Luger seems to wear the sear very quickly, and again no spares availability? Their parts don't seem to be cross compatible with any other guns? I wouldn't really want a paperweight after 2-3k rounds. Aren't KWC TM clones ? for some reason I thought they were, shame as the stainless does look nice. Link to post Share on other sites
garry Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 Their 1911's (and derivatives of..) that I've seen so far, are as far as I'm aware proprietary. Therefore, a simple failure like a sear or loading nozzle renders them useless. Love to be proved wrong, or if anyone has had any joy with spares, as like you guy's I like that stainless one. Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 Yah no KWC is proprietary system all the way through. KWC do have a website though, wonder if you can email them and ask for spares like with KJW? http://www.kwcgun.com/index.php?option=com_b2jcontact&view=b2jcontact&bid=1&Itemid=137&lang=en And to be honest, I am over the stainless one after Cyberguns trolling with the licensed Glock replicas for military use that turned out to be nothing more than rebranded Stark Glocks. I am set on getting the RWA Nighthawk custom with the silencer. Just waiting on a deal/coupon or something like that Link to post Share on other sites
garry Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 Yah no KWC is proprietary system all the way through. KWC do have a website though, wonder if you can email them and ask for spares like with KJW? http://www.kwcgun.com/index.php?option=com_b2jcontact&view=b2jcontact&bid=1&Itemid=137&lang=en And to be honest, I am over the stainless one after Cyberguns trolling with the licensed Glock replicas for military use that turned out to be nothing more than rebranded Stark Glocks. I am set on getting the RWA Nighthawk custom with the silencer. Just waiting on a deal/coupon or something like that Everyone who I know has tried, had no response. Seems like they don't give a toss about customer service. Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 Dang, that's too bad. I do have another suggestion though. KIC Taiwan - Jessica. www.kic.com.tw They can normally get Taiwan stuff straight from the factory. Worth a shot Link to post Share on other sites
garry Posted December 6, 2015 Report Share Posted December 6, 2015 Dang, that's too bad. I do have another suggestion though. KIC Taiwan - Jessica. www.kic.com.tw They can normally get Taiwan stuff straight from the factory. Worth a shot Cheers buddy, Worth a try as you say. I'll pass it on and see if anyone gets a result. Link to post Share on other sites
Tank Posted December 6, 2015 Report Share Posted December 6, 2015 Yep, more KWC garbage sold by Cybergun. They'll run OK out of the box, but there's pretty much ZERO support. So when it breaks and your *suitcasey* "warranty" is expired (or voided by some arbitrary nonsense), you'll be stuck with a paperweight. Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 Lookie what we have here: https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ja&tl=en&u=http://www.kic.com.tw/shop/index.php%3Fcat%3Dc242_KWC-------------.html%26XTCsid%3D780f2925a87a1a9094298c65fb0c4c47&usg=ALkJrhiudWa0YPIAEYnSwpEQr_biVS4oNw KWC 1911 OEM spare parts from KIC Taiwan Nozzle, piston head, nozzle spring and magazine valve. I'm sure they can get whatever you need on special order too. But from what I hear the nozzle, piston head and spring are the most troublesome parts in the gun. Link to post Share on other sites
Alias1983 Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 If its anything like the eliteforce stuff some friends and I have/had problems with the hammer catching up on the slide. Barrel bushing being a pos, bending and cracking eventually jettisoned and parts go flying. Non functional hopup, safty lever breaking off and no replacement valves. Had a valve take a on the first co2 bulb insertion. Link to post Share on other sites
garry Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 Lookie what we have here: https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ja&tl=en&u=http://www.kic.com.tw/shop/index.php%3Fcat%3Dc242_KWC-------------.html%26XTCsid%3D780f2925a87a1a9094298c65fb0c4c47&usg=ALkJrhiudWa0YPIAEYnSwpEQr_biVS4oNw KWC 1911 OEM spare parts from KIC Taiwan Nozzle, piston head, nozzle spring and magazine valve. I'm sure they can get whatever you need on special order too. But from what I hear the nozzle, piston head and spring are the most troublesome parts in the gun. Thanks for that mate. I don't have any KWC, but that may be very useful to others. Link to post Share on other sites
Brigg Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 You can also buy this if you need a new nozzle or springs. The Elite Force is just a kwc rebrand. http://www.evike.com/products/57297/ Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 Aaargh! I am flip-flopping on this like a bad politician. This video made me want one again It does look REALLY nice. And like I said before the options for getting something like this built are either close to impossible (flush fitting CO2 mags, or flush fitting gas mags that can barely shoot 15 BBs...) or very expensive in comparison. He says he got it for 120 EUR but it was a pre-order price from that site. Now they list it at 165 EUR, and original pricing of 195 EUR. I just cannot justify that kind of money for a Cybergun branded KWC 1911. 120 EUR I could accept, but not like 140+ EUR... :| However, apparently the markings are actually engraved and he seems pretty impressed with the finish. As well as doing a comparison to his old KWC 1911 pistol as well. On the other hand, the RWA Nighthawk Custom is pretty nice too and comes with a silencer, threaded barrel and thread protector for "only" 145 USD. Not engraved markings though. Ooooh the humanity! Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 Well he responded to my comment about the price. That store har 30% pre-order discount and he said only that shop had that price. He also said "GET ONE IT'S AMAZING!"... :| God damnit! Link to post Share on other sites
Tank Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 "5 year grantee"...Yeah, go ahead and read that policy all the way through. You'll find that it actually covers almost nothing and gives them a LOT of ways to claim you've voided it. One of the inherent flaws with KWC 1911s is the safety. In the video he mentions his older gun sometimes fires when disengaging the thumb safety. It's SUPER common. Rack slide, engage thumb safety, pull trigger, release trigger, disengage safety and the hammer will fall by itself even if the grip safety is not depressed. Which if you have a loaded mag in the gun means it will fire. I do find it interesting that for the new one, he sort of complained about not being able to engage the safety w/o cocking the hammer. That's how a 1911 is SUPPOSED to work. So MAYBE KWC (finally) fixed the safety issue, but I doubt it. Link to post Share on other sites
icolater Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 "5 year grantee"...Yeah, go ahead and read that policy all the way through. You'll find that it actually covers almost nothing and gives them a LOT of ways to claim you've voided it. One of the inherent flaws with KWC 1911s is the safety. In the video he mentions his older gun sometimes fires when disengaging the thumb safety. It's SUPER common. Rack slide, engage thumb safety, pull trigger, release trigger, disengage safety and the hammer will fall by itself even if the grip safety is not depressed. Which if you have a loaded mag in the gun means it will fire. I do find it interesting that for the new one, he sort of complained about not being able to engage the safety w/o cocking the hammer. That's how a 1911 is SUPPOSED to work. So MAYBE KWC (finally) fixed the safety issue, but I doubt it. This^^ Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 Funny, saw some Swedish retailers are stocking these for about 160 EUR, thought it would be more expensive locally. Link to post Share on other sites
icolater Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 It looks so nice, I had never imagined owning a KWC but I just might have to try one of these bad boys out. Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 CRW showed it off with RS Colt grips and screws. You just have to file out the bottom to accept the wider piece that allows for the CO2 bulb. Like I have said, getting a Colt 1911 airsoft gun that looks like this, and takes CO2, it's really a huge project so all things considered... Yeeeh... :| Link to post Share on other sites
chas Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 103$ http://airsoft.tiger111hk.com/p30569/Cybergun-Metal-COLT-marking-1911-CO2-Pistol-(Silver)/product_info.html Link to post Share on other sites
DeltaZero Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 NonEx is getting one I guarantee it! Link to post Share on other sites
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