blobface Posted May 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2016 I hope they are sold out, it will only fund more iteration in the future, but I honestly doubt it. Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLite Posted May 9, 2016 Report Share Posted May 9, 2016 Sorry for the OT, but where is that figure coming from? eHobby sell the sets (shirt and trousers) for about $140, which is Tru-Spec range pricing. HKD, methinks. Link to post Share on other sites
Grimmese Posted May 9, 2016 Report Share Posted May 9, 2016 I hope they are not sold out, and they have to reconsider their priceing... Link to post Share on other sites
Gigueand Posted May 9, 2016 Report Share Posted May 9, 2016 QUICK! THERE'S NO TIME TO WASTE! Someone get on the phone to the one guy who bought the G&G MG42 and the Inokatsu M1911! Link to post Share on other sites
CaptCalvin Posted May 9, 2016 Report Share Posted May 9, 2016 Comparing an ICS to this would be massively unfair, perhaps a TOP made to actually work without shells / better externals, personally a Devilhunter modded GHK gun with some sort of lightweight CNC mag that reduces the mag weight by half would be the ultimate AR airsoft gun for me, because I can already tell while this has the manual of a GBBR, it still doesnt' kick like it, but has the advantage of lighter mag weight with a little more capacity, and not affected by weather. Don't see how the GHK gen2 mag can be any lighter and still support the Devilhunter mod. The only reason why it's one of the only viable GG mags to be modded for CO2 is because of how overbuilt it is for GG in the first place. Link to post Share on other sites
SuperCriollo Posted May 10, 2016 Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 All skepticism is valid and justified, but I am pretty exited about this project. If the reliability and performance are there, just the fact that this gun has a forged receiver makes it worth if for me (in the $500 - $1000 price bracket) Comparing it to GBBR's is a bit unfair, as I dont think is its objective. On the other hand, it would be the ultimate AEG, rendering PTWs, ERGs and TM's next gen obsolete with one stroke. I'm kinda curious about the trigger feel too, since they said it can be used like a springer when the battery runs dry (if I remember correctly). If it has a mechanical feel like a VSR that would splendid. Link to post Share on other sites
PureSilver Posted May 10, 2016 Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 [J]ust the fact that this gun has a forged receiver makes it worth if for me (in the $500 - $1000 price bracket) According to PopularAirsoft these should have forged receivers, but the first 300 (at least in the photos) appear to have billet-CNC'd receivers (which would go some way towards explaining the high price). If they transition to forged receivers that would be good. The Insider says the production guns are forecast at a third the cost of the preproduction guns, which would put them squarely in the $850 area. t would be the ultimate AEG, rendering PTWs, ERGs and TM's next gen obsolete with one stroke. Recoil Shocks and ERGs will always have a place if this thing is $800+ for the simple reason that they cost about a third and half that respectively. However, I agree with you on one thing: if this thing works well, and if the required aftermarket develops quickly, this could well kill off PTWs. People only get into PTWs for the realism and performance, and if this is as described it beats Systema on both counts. Link to post Share on other sites
blobface Posted May 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 Don't see how the GHK gen2 mag can be any lighter and still support the Devilhunter mod. The only reason why it's one of the only viable GG mags to be modded for CO2 is because of how overbuilt it is for GG in the first place. Changing it to lightweight aluminium and have it CNC'd instead of casted should reduce the weight significantly, but also very expensive in comparison.. and instead of using pierced co2 bulb, you could use threaded screw on ones that saves you having to add the outer sleeve and puncture valve etc. I'm kinda curious about the trigger feel too I don't think comparing it to GBBR would be unfair at this stage, they have gone so far that even the trigger feel is mechanical, if the price was right and the recoil wasn't too inferior, it has potential to capture a section of the GBBR market (if the price was 1/3 in the production model). Link to post Share on other sites
CaptCalvin Posted May 10, 2016 Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 Changing it to lightweight aluminium and have it CNC'd instead of casted should reduce the weight significantly, but also very expensive in comparison.. and instead of using pierced co2 bulb, you could use threaded screw on ones that saves you having to add the outer sleeve and puncture valve etc. Actually you're right... and I don't think it'd be too much more expensive. It wouldn't have to involve much intricate processes. A lot of material could be left on and it'd still be lighter. In fact... why not just cast it out of aluminum even? Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted May 10, 2016 Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 Cast aluminium might be a bit explodey might it not? Link to post Share on other sites
Grimmese Posted May 15, 2016 Report Share Posted May 15, 2016 Still available the limited 300 pcs.I'm wondering why this is happened... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukxj9Jzq97o&feature=youtu.be Link to post Share on other sites
thatguy404 Posted May 15, 2016 Report Share Posted May 15, 2016 They unplugged the battery and it works as a springer. As mentioned in previous videos and this thread. Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 I'm still curious how this differs from the Top M4 EBB Cartless (aside from being machined and several times more expensive): http://www.hyperdouraku.com/airgun/topm4cl/ Link to post Share on other sites
blobface Posted May 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 I'm still curious how this differs from the Top M4 EBB Cartless (aside from being machined and several times more expensive) While I'm certainly not saying it justifies paying the difference, the two are mechanically quite different, the GBLS is more like a springer system hidden within a GBB bolt that is cycled / cocked by a PTW's gearbox in the lower (that is splittable by pin removable like any GBB), this is TOP's on the left, GBLS on the right: The TOP's bolt is basically a small decorative cylinder that gets cycled within a gearbox, so the weight is low and the travel distance is short compared to the GBLS, as a result I suspect the recoil of the TOP would be inferior, the trigger pull sensation is also likely to be really good compared to the TOP (or any AEG) due to it being mechanical instead of electronic. Link to post Share on other sites
CaptCalvin Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 Hopefully the outer barrel and/or extension is WA pattern too. Would open up possibility for lots more upgrades and mods. Although ideally you wouldn't need to upgrade anything for that kinda price but still the more options for outer barrels the better. Link to post Share on other sites
Bastel Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 Has anybody here ordered ohne? Link to post Share on other sites
mimesis Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 Has anybody here worldwide ordered one? Link to post Share on other sites
Number5 Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 New video, no new information, none that I can understand at least. I personally hope GBLS sell the 1st batch and go into higher production for the rest of the market I'm interested to try this out and see where they can go with it. https://youtu.be/0hapTcF3Nak Link to post Share on other sites
blobface Posted May 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 The recoil looks much better than their promo videos.. Link to post Share on other sites
Number5 Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 https://youtu.be/RpzFZe0owkE Another video this time with 'testimonies' of ppl trying it out, a couple in English. The last chap described recoil as better than a TM AEG. I can only assume he is referring to TM NGR Also good comments on build quality though I would think the version on show is the 2.5k one! Link to post Share on other sites
blobface Posted May 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 Yeah I'm very interested at this point, think I'm likely to get the mass production version when available provided it's under $1k.. Link to post Share on other sites
mimesis Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 https://youtu.be/RpzFZe0owkE Over the guy's right shoulder, from about 2:40 onwards. ?!? Link to post Share on other sites
harborne blue Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 No kick. Not like the real gun? So much for "Let's get real". Link to post Share on other sites
PureSilver Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 Yeah I'm very interested at this point, think I'm likely to get the mass production version when available provided it's under $1k.. Provided I can get hands-on one one and I'm suitably impressed (and can get decent Colt/FN trades on it) I might pick one up too. Link to post Share on other sites
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