DarkLite Posted September 23, 2016 Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 Not great, admittedly. I understand putting a warranty restriction on, say, opening the gearbox, but given that the popularity of the AR15 platform is predominantly based on its modular design, it seems a little heavy handed to tell people not to touch it at all. Link to post Share on other sites
PureSilver Posted September 23, 2016 Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 I agree, actually. I don't see why this should be any more sensitive than any other AEG or PTW - it doesn't have a microprocessor-controlled FCU (like, say, a PTW or Scorpion EVO3A1 does) which would be the bit that would trip up most otherwise competent airsoft techs, and fundamentally it is just a collection of gears and springs just like everything else. That said, I'm pretty sure you void the warranty on virtually every airsoft gun if you crack the gearbox open, it's just that we don't usually have a representative of TM turn up in Arnie's threads spelling that out. Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted September 23, 2016 Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 Not great, admittedly. I understand putting a warranty restriction on, say, opening the gearbox, but given that the popularity of the AR15 platform is predominantly based on its modular design, it seems a little heavy handed to tell people not to touch it at all. Yeah but he's not. The English language (and I suppose Korean too) is not computer code. He obviously means "Disassembling and conversion". Link to post Share on other sites
stryker20000 Posted September 23, 2016 Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 For me right now the biggest thing I would like to swap off is that crane stock. I never liked them and they are uncomfortable for me. I prefer the CAR -15/LE stock. Link to post Share on other sites
LordGBLS Posted September 26, 2016 Report Share Posted September 26, 2016 void Link to post Share on other sites
LordGBLS Posted September 26, 2016 Report Share Posted September 26, 2016 Not great, admittedly. I understand putting a warranty restriction on, say, opening the gearbox, but given that the popularity of the AR15 platform is predominantly based on its modular design, it seems a little heavy handed to tell people not to touch it at all. I agree, actually. I don't see why this should be any more sensitive than any other AEG or PTW - it doesn't have a microprocessor-controlled FCU (like, say, a PTW or Scorpion EVO3A1 does) which would be the bit that would trip up most otherwise competent airsoft techs, and fundamentally it is just a collection of gears and springs just like everything else. That said, I'm pretty sure you void the warranty on virtually every airsoft gun if you crack the gearbox open, it's just that we don't usually have a representative of TM turn up in Arnie's threads spelling that out. In DAS system, the back-and-forth movement of real sized bolt carrier controls all steps for firing directly. Not only heavy bolt carrier which moving, but also gears in gear box are designed and made very delicately to bear the load of this bolt carrier. DAS gun is a machine itself. When you see and try it, you can only understand why we have to emphasize "Sensitive". Link to post Share on other sites
LordGBLS Posted September 26, 2016 Report Share Posted September 26, 2016 For me right now the biggest thing I would like to swap off is that crane stock. I never liked them and they are uncomfortable for me. I prefer the CAR -15/LE stock. The reason we use crane stock is that DAS needs the place to store battery. If CAR –15/LE has a enough room for Li-po 11.1v, you could use it. Link to post Share on other sites
Grimmese Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 Does you shipped out the limited ones? Link to post Share on other sites
The Insider Posted November 11, 2016 Report Share Posted November 11, 2016 Not yet.... I'm told.. "little issues".... Link to post Share on other sites
Grimmese Posted November 11, 2016 Report Share Posted November 11, 2016 the question is: the little issues means it doesnt work, or they have financyal problems by overpricing, and of course the fact that you can still order the limited 300, honestly how many sold 25? 30? Link to post Share on other sites
Grimmese Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 They have boxes yay! Link to post Share on other sites
Grimmese Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 And another video, curious about the miss feed and the fail. Link to post Share on other sites
MODDAN Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 I don't know if you watched the entire video or not, but the "fail", as you state it, could be due to the fact that the girl firing the weapon pulled back the bolt to check if the weapon was loaded, which I would speculate caused a double-feed and somehow led a BB astray and jammed the mechanism. How this caused the mechbox to go haywire I don't know, but I guess the design of the mechbox requires the bolt to go completely into battery in order to stop the motor or gears. Other than that I think the video was a suitable demonstration of the platform, and GBLS was kind enough to leave these minor errors in, which I think shows good character. A few of the later test subjects where unaware of the concept "fire selector" and was blindly hammering away at the trigger expecting something to magically happen. Or they where under the impression that the weapon was already set to "fire" for some reason. Link to post Share on other sites
LordGBLS Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 Does you shipped out the limited ones? Sorry for late reply. We was crazy busy. Items started shipping from this Monday finally. Link to post Share on other sites
LordGBLS Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 And another video, curious about the miss feed and the fail. I don't know if you watched the entire video or not, but the "fail", as you state it, could be due to the fact that the girl firing the weapon pulled back the bolt to check if the weapon was loaded, which I would speculate caused a double-feed and somehow led a BB astray and jammed the mechanism. How this caused the mechbox to go haywire I don't know, but I guess the design of the mechbox requires the bolt to go completely into battery in order to stop the motor or gears. Other than that I think the video was a suitable demonstration of the platform, and GBLS was kind enough to leave these minor errors in, which I think shows good character. A few of the later test subjects where unaware of the concept "fire selector" and was blindly hammering away at the trigger expecting something to magically happen. Or they where under the impression that the weapon was already set to "fire" for some reason. MODDAN explained very well. Thank for your comment. DAS's upper receiver is the same as GBB. When the user does not use the BBs we recommended or loads BBs more than one time, BBs will be jammed inside just like GBB. But DAS mechanism was designed not to be damaged by this kind of error. When BB is jammed, you can solve it easily with this folloing procedure. First, lock back the bolt carrier group by pulling back the charging handle. Second, remove the magazine, clean the chamber. And then just try firing again. It will work well again. Link to post Share on other sites
JCheeseright Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 LordGBLS, the limited 300 are very expensive, what will be the price for the mass produced version? Link to post Share on other sites
Grimmese Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 I don't know if you watched the entire video or not, but the "fail", as you state it, could be due to the fact that the girl firing the weapon pulled back the bolt to check if the weapon was loaded, which I would speculate caused a double-feed and somehow led a BB astray and jammed the mechanism. How this caused the mechbox to go haywire I don't know, but I guess the design of the mechbox requires the bolt to go completely into battery in order to stop the motor or gears. Other than that I think the video was a suitable demonstration of the platform, and GBLS was kind enough to leave these minor errors in, which I think shows good character. A few of the later test subjects where unaware of the concept "fire selector" and was blindly hammering away at the trigger expecting something to magically happen. Or they where under the impression that the weapon was already set to "fire" for some reason. So i watched the video again, and the Girl is fired 3 or more shots than she switched to full auto and shot one burst and the second burst jammed( maybe poor BB or something, i had GBB too), but She didn't touch the charging handle or the bolt, before the fail and the clear shots. Don't get me wrong i m happy to see that the company doesn't censure the fail, I just corious what happened. And also pls GBLS make the non limited ones under 1500 bucks. (or i will be really sad). Link to post Share on other sites
blobface Posted December 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 Maybe I made this up but I remember $800 being a figure that was floating around? Did I imagine that? Link to post Share on other sites
LordGBLS Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 So i watched the video again, and the Girl is fired 3 or more shots than she switched to full auto and shot one burst and the second burst jammed( maybe poor BB or something, i had GBB too), but She didn't touch the charging handle or the bolt, before the fail and the clear shots. Don't get me wrong i m happy to see that the company doesn't censure the fail, I just corious what happened. And also pls GBLS make the non limited ones under 1500 bucks. (or i will be really sad). Yes. As we said before, there are several reasons about jammed BB. a. Double fed b. using the BB we do not recommend. c. The others according user's handling. The reason fo failure during girl's shooting is poor BBs (we do not recommend). Hard (Solid) BB should be used for DAS guns, but only normal BB was used at the time. We often visit arniesairsoft. If you have a question, feel free to leave a comment. We will try to give you full answer. We think users' opinion is very important. If there an idea makes our item improve, we will adopt the opinion with the pleasure Link to post Share on other sites
Grimmese Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Nice video LordGBLS can you say something about the price and release of the non limited M4? and also can we buy by parts? as only buy the lower , the upper and the bolt carrier? Link to post Share on other sites
mrezzy Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Price is $2400 for semi only and $2700 for full auto option.. yikes!!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Thats the limited edition price, mass produced version price should be lower than that, although we don't know how much yet, hope blobface is right =) Link to post Share on other sites
Grimmese Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 hope blobface is right =) Yeah Me too Link to post Share on other sites
LordGBLS Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 We want to correct wrong information first. Full automatic ver. is USD 2,500, and Semi-auto only is USD 2,700. (http://www.gbls.co.kr/sub/limited.html) We are trying to release mass produced version in the first half of next year, and the price can be opened only by airsoft shops. We hope it would be about half of the limited edition's price. Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLite Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 That's a hell of a price point. I understand you have a large investment to recoup but I think you'll struggle to shift stock at $1,250USD a gun. Link to post Share on other sites
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