Gigueand Posted January 14, 2016 Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 Hi Guys, If you were going to put together as many 2001-2015 U.S. impressions as possible with as few pieces kit as possible which pieces of kit would be included? For example, the most universally used helmet is/was probably the ACH/MICH 2000. Regular U.S. Army, Army SF, 75th Ranger Regiment, Navy SEALs, SFOD-D/Delta/CAG, USMC, MARSOC, etc have all, at one point or another, used the MICH 2000. Link to post Share on other sites
ardrummer292 Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 I think a RAV would be a decent multi-kit armor carrier. Link to post Share on other sites
bettyblue84 Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 DCU cammies, Almost all of those units probably used them at some point. Link to post Share on other sites
Siavash Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 M4..is the most universally used weapon.. But as Kit wise i think its hard because every unit has its own gear, Army uses IOTV's,Rangers use RAV's and so on.. Can only really say a bit of kit they all use is the Helmet lol Camo is hard cus all unit wear whats mission ready.. Weapons besides Army have a range.. Plate Carriers besides Army again have a wide choice.. List goes on for other stuff.. Link to post Share on other sites
Adiventure Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 I think your LBE is going to be the real problem, because while you might find the same carrier used it will almost certainly be in a different color. I might be inclined to go with a some kind of chestrig in Khaki, as it would be plausible to be seals, navy, cag, or marsoc depending on the period and rig, I know nothing about about the air force, but I assume their SF have at some point used a khaki rig. Maybe a MBSS? LBT something or other? Camo is easy, desert or woodland have been used by basically everyone. Not sure about blaster, I've never been super into ar's, so I don't know how much overlap there might be. The problem is gonna be that you'll end up with a generic SF kit that could be just about anything, but not look like anything in particular. Link to post Share on other sites
bettyblue84 Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 You would probably get the most out of a smoke green RAV. Its been seen on MARSOC, AFSOC, SFOD-D, Rangers and Seals afaik. Link to post Share on other sites
Adiventure Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 You would probably get the most out of a smoke green RAV. Its been seen on MARSOC, AFSOC, SFOD-D, Rangers and Seals afaik. I'm not sure about that, it may have been seen among members of those groups, but I think for most that would be the exception, not the rule. Link to post Share on other sites
Alias1983 Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 I think your LBE is going to be the real problem, because while you might find the same carrier used it will almost certainly be in a different color. I might be inclined to go with a some kind of chestrig in Khaki, as it would be plausible to be seals, navy, cag, or marsoc depending on the period and rig, I know nothing about about the air force, but I assume their SF have at some point used a khaki rig. Maybe a MBSS? LBT something or other? Camo is easy, desert or woodland have been used by basically everyone. Not sure about blaster, I've never been super into ar's, so I don't know how much overlap there might be. The problem is gonna be that you'll end up with a generic SF kit that could be just about anything, but not look like anything in particular. Me I'm the opposite but to save me some time. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_individual_weapons_of_the_U.S._Armed_Forces Helmets, gear color, camouflage are all different from what I can tell Link to post Share on other sites
Gigueand Posted January 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 So general consensus seems to be M4A1 with various accessories MICH 2000 DCU Paraclete RAV The RAV was used when? 2003 to roughly 2007? Pretty much early Iraq War period? Bottom line seems to be that there isn't really any universally used kit for modern impressions. As was mentioned, some similar LBEs were used, but often in different colors (ex, OTV/IBA Army = Woodland and then later ACU, OTV/IBA USMC = Coyote). Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 When was AOR1 introduced? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v376/roninrj/cag.jpg Link to post Share on other sites
Alias1983 Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 http://camopedia.org/index.php?title=USA Link to post Share on other sites
Gigueand Posted January 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Tested 2008-2009 and adopted 2010? Those are the date ranges I'm seeing in several different sources. Link to post Share on other sites
Adiventure Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 So general consensus seems to be M4A1 with various accessories MICH 2000 DCU Paraclete RAV The RAV was used when? 2003 to roughly 2007? Pretty much early Iraq War period? Bottom line seems to be that there isn't really any universally used kit for modern impressions. As was mentioned, some similar LBEs were used, but often in different colors (ex, OTV/IBA Army = Woodland and then later ACU, OTV/IBA USMC = Coyote). I mean, I really think a RAV would be an unlikely choice for a generic sf kit. MBSS, maybe EPC, maybe 6094 or similar in khaki would probably be a lot more common. Link to post Share on other sites
abbadon101 Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 I would say the rig that is most likely to tick lots of different units boxes is the EPC or RRV in MJK as weren't both part of the SFLCE and MLCE (I have probably got both those acronyms wrong). Link to post Share on other sites
Adiventure Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 I would say the rig that is most likely to tick lots of different units boxes is the EPC or RRV in MJK as weren't both part of the SFLCE and MLCE (I have probably got both those acronyms wrong). RRV could work too. You'd probably rule out the marines since it is in FSBE in cb. That's part of why I think a khaki personal purchase rig might be best. Link to post Share on other sites
abbadon101 Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Well no matter what you do you will never tick all the boxes unless you go back to PASGT armour and ALICE webbing. An EPC/RRV in MJK would fit the bill with pretty much any US camos you wanted to wear (M81/DCU/UCP/MC). Plus both are really good rigs. Link to post Share on other sites
adrian_geot Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 -M4A1 and accessories.-Mich 2000 Krylon painted and covers-DCU/Woodland and UCP.-Tactical Taylor OD MAV with X Harness or RRV and BALCS+another modern plate carrier. -Glock. -ESS Ice. -Mechanix Classic. -... Link to post Share on other sites
abbadon101 Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 Glock? Link to post Share on other sites
Alias1983 Posted January 24, 2016 Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_individual_weapons_of_the_U.S._Armed_Forces Link to post Share on other sites
Habakure Posted January 24, 2016 Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 Yeah, Glocks are issued (different variants and calibers) but for a generally pistol, across that time frame, I would have thought a M9 would have fit the bill? Edit calibers = calipers, really, predictive text? Really?!? Damn phone. Link to post Share on other sites
abbadon101 Posted January 24, 2016 Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 If you were doing a very modern kit then yes a Glock would fit but with a DCU/M81 era type loadout it would look quite out of place. Link to post Share on other sites
Alias1983 Posted January 24, 2016 Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 Glocks used 35,22,17,19 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_individual_weapons_of_the_U.S._Armed_Forces Use of glocks started I think 3-5 years ago Link to post Share on other sites
div Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 Glock is seen with SF guy (supposedly) on Red Wings photos. I believe glocks is very popular private-purchase handgun amongst SF and Rangers since the begining of OEF. Carbine - m4a1 (maybe CQBR) with EOtech 551, scout light, peq15, crane or magpul CTR stock. Khaki Eagle EPC/MBAV for Army style or LBT 6094 for AirForce/Navy. Tip - you can remove cummerbund from EPC to replicate MBSS/plate carrier. Link to post Share on other sites
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