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Co2 m4 gbbr?


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If you're thinking about using the Tippmann with its unbelievably stupid 12g capsule magazines, forget about it. Performance with those magazines is erratic and inconsistent, and you literally cannot remove the magazine without it venting the remainder of the capsule - there's no valve there to stop that like there is on literally every other GBBR ever made.

 

You have to use a remote-line system, which is what Tippmann are used to (all their paintball guns use remote-line gas) and what the gun is really designed to use. In this sense the Tippmanns are a totally different proposition to true GIM GBBRs like the WA/WE platforms (which basically all the guns you're looking at are variants of - the G&P and GHK are both WA-platform); they're more akin to remote-line classic airsoft guns like the 1980s Escort system (rebranded as the 'DaytonaGun').

 

As the others have said, the GHK is by far and away and without a shadow of a doubt the best AR-15 platform GBBR on the market at present, both out-of-the-box and (in performance terms at least) with upgrades, too. If you want to use CO2, the GHK is also the best CO2 platform on the market owing to the exceptionally useful DevilHunter modification.

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gonna add my "devilhunter" mod to the group :)

 

devil hunter mod. Co2. Bar None. So any gun that uses GHK + DH mags = win. So far, VFC with the modded firing pin and GHK guns.

Has anyone actually tried this? All I've read are people saying that it could be done but nobody has shown any examples. In my own testing the gas route sits about 2mm lower than VFC mags. Same thing with G&P Pmags that I've also heard can be modded to work with VFC more than a couple of times.

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I think Nugentgl (L2E) did a video on it detailing what you have to cut down to make it work, can't remember exactly but you either mod the gun (which makes the VFC no longer compatible with original mags), or you mod the GHK mags, which make the mags not work with GHK guns anymore... IIRC, if someone could verify / correct would be great. 

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G&P and kjw are dated IMO.

 

 

You haven't seen a KJW V3 have you?  They would even work in Canada.

 

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No rubber band...its not the old KJW any more...

 

410fps with .20g at 72 F ambient temps

 

GBBR operational with magazine at 10C, velocity did drop to 340fps at this stage.

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Sucker actually is pretty loud and kicks a bit.

 

Consistent 400fps on propane.  That one high 389fps reading could have been a .25g that was mixed in the chrono bbs.

 

Mag was noticeably colder at end of fire string on both SA and Burst.

 

SA

 

 

Burst

 

 

On the burst mode..we took it to far and and ran out of shots.  I tossed in a bb from the floor and got a still speed rating...still over 400.

 

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- more capacity as CO2 is not only going back into the capsule, but also filling up all the "piping" of your magazines.

- cheaper, capsules are £0.50 a pop, they can for cheaper but not too significantly, especially when compared to a filling a big paintball tank. 

- imo the most important advantage is it eliminates the awkward filling issue of CO2 capsule, after a game, some shots have been fired from a mag, with capsules you often have to decide whether to load more BBs without changing bulb, and risk running out of gas mid mag, or change the bulb out prematurely, risk wasting CO2 that would actually have lasted another full mag.

- faster, unscrewing and screwing on bulbs is really boring... where as charging like green gas is something we're already familiar with.  

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