sadigh Posted May 15, 2016 Report Share Posted May 15, 2016 Do you mean the Marui KSG...? Marui are working on a KSG?! Link to post Share on other sites
spetsnazdave87 Posted May 15, 2016 Report Share Posted May 15, 2016 Marui are working on a KSG?! Brother you are WAY out of the loop lol. Check the hobby show thread... Link to post Share on other sites
NeoVeNoM Posted May 15, 2016 Report Share Posted May 15, 2016 I must admit I do like the look of the dark earth type coloured version though. Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I am pretty sure that is OD. Though I would not mind a dark earth color myself. I already converted my VSR to an OD M40A3. The L96 also has metal mags. I did by a Well version of it though. Simply because of the cheaper and better aftermarket parts. (thank you Airsoftpro) Very interested to see the loading system. Hopefully better than the L96. Link to post Share on other sites
Hatchet Posted December 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 Looks like some more info and a release date of the 22nd. http://www.tokyo-marui.co.jp/products/aircocking/boltaction/423PR/ Link to post Share on other sites
Wingmann Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 Am I being picky or that video shows the player pulling a bolt without spring? Link to post Share on other sites
Hatchet Posted December 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 Don't know. Probably not a strong spring so it looks easy. Besides, he wouldn't be pulling it hard after all, he is the gun maker carrying out the extreme sensitivity... Link to post Share on other sites
Crying Scum Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 Maybe someone can educate me, since this have a short stroke system and the cylinder is also much shorter. Won't it be hard to upgrade it to higher FPS setup? What I know, it's important to have big cylinder volume if you want to shoot heavier BB's. Cylinder will clearly not be VSR compatible, so TM m40a5 is losing big chunk of air volume. Link to post Share on other sites
Hatchet Posted December 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 Nobody knows for sure until someone gets one and takes it apart. But that seems to be the best guess at the moment. I know I really struggled trying to get my L96 up in power (compared to the VSR which is super easy) Link to post Share on other sites
mimesis Posted December 24, 2016 Report Share Posted December 24, 2016 So now we know it's going to be $379 (RedWolf). Hmmm. Link to post Share on other sites
vorpalbunnie Posted December 24, 2016 Report Share Posted December 24, 2016 $295 is the Echigoya street price before taxes and after conversion. Link to post Share on other sites
Hatchet Posted December 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2016 Machsakai review is up. Largely a case of looking at the pictures for me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yjiryxx3vAI The manual is also shown in full at the end, which has some more info on the loading system. 35 rounds in a magazine, when it's put into the gun, half of those are pushed into the gun and half are still in the magazine. It's then fired. When the magazine is empty there will still be half the rounds in the gun that you can't fire. Then when you put the next mag in you end up getting a full 35 to fire. So there's always about half a mags worth in the gun, even when you've got no mag in... Could make for some interesting safe zone experiences. I think you could still turn the gun upside down and gravity feed them, so it's still potentially unsafe (or you ditch half a mag of ammo every time if that's possible). Hop system looks to be similar to the L96 (same adjustment dial). Couldn't work out the cylinder length. Bolt pull is short, but not sure how that's achieved. Hopefully there'll be some more reviews in the near future. Link to post Share on other sites
vorpalbunnie Posted December 25, 2016 Report Share Posted December 25, 2016 Tempted to go pick one up today... Link to post Share on other sites
scorch Posted December 25, 2016 Report Share Posted December 25, 2016 That feed system is a deal breaker for me. Link to post Share on other sites
Wingmann Posted December 25, 2016 Report Share Posted December 25, 2016 I don't see it as a deal breaker, but it's certainly a strange design decision. Link to post Share on other sites
Hatchet Posted December 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2016 If you want the magazines in the right place, you have to make some design compromises. Probably better than the loading blade... Link to post Share on other sites
scorch Posted December 25, 2016 Report Share Posted December 25, 2016 Yeah, there's gonna be compromise somewhere. I like to be able to see the whole feed path from mag well to nozzle though. It's the only way I can verify the gun is safe and unloaded. Link to post Share on other sites
vorpalbunnie Posted December 26, 2016 Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 I did the thing http://arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/216840-tokyo-marui-m40a5/ Link to post Share on other sites
Hatchet Posted December 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2016 But you haven't completely disassembled it yet! Come on, for Science.I want to know more about that cylinder... Link to post Share on other sites
Gunmane Posted December 27, 2016 Report Share Posted December 27, 2016 I watched a bit of Mach Sakai's video, and I swore for a moment I was watching The Mad Minute in action, Link to post Share on other sites
mimesis Posted December 27, 2016 Report Share Posted December 27, 2016 So can you confirm about the strange mag set-up? Half the bb's inside the receiver, etc. Link to post Share on other sites
RSM Posted December 28, 2016 Report Share Posted December 28, 2016 Looking at the manual, it appears there is a gate to stop the back flow of BBs into an empty mag well, only a loaded mag appears to 'open' the gate. There is a second 'gate' (detent?) in red if you look closely at the diagrams which suggests that rounds can only progress into the nozzle feedway/chamber when a magazine with at least one round is attached. With no mag, there is no feeding tension on the internally held rounds and they are kept captive. While that's pretty clever from a safety perspective and is in line with most safe zone rules with mags out, I wonder whether the second feedway stopper is plastic/metal and whether that'd scratch up BBs at all. Link to post Share on other sites
Wingmann Posted December 28, 2016 Report Share Posted December 28, 2016 One mag with one round would allow you to shoot one round of those inside the gun. The system is effectively rendering 35rd magazines into half that.As I said, not a total deal breaker, but really, really strange. Link to post Share on other sites
Hatchet Posted December 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2016 Well, the first magazine anyway. I guess you can always take it out again and top it up if you only have the one. If I didn't have so much money sunk into the VSR already I'd probably pick one up. I still might if I had cash to spare, but I could that towards a Wolverine BOLT for the VSR... decisions decisions (well, hypothetical decisions). Link to post Share on other sites
vorpalbunnie Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 So can you confirm about the strange mag set-up? Half the bb's inside the receiver, etc. Yeah, it's basically just a long feed tube. Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 Guys, the feed system has been in their Gindan pistol for years. Basically fill the gun reserve up and forget about it. Don't bother worrying about your first mag having half capacity or anything. Link to post Share on other sites
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