TheFull9 Posted September 27, 2016 Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 Anyone bought any of these recently? http://www.ebairsoft.com/combat-pants-woodland-p-9463.htmlhttp://www.ebairsoft.com/combat-pants-p-9419.html Or, obviously, any of the same model in a different pattern/colour? They make a version I'm interested in because literally nobody else is making it, but the sizing chart seems weird. I'm a 32" waist which you'd think would be a medium (usually is with any other brand) but their chart seems to indicate I'd be a small; a concept I'm struggling with when it comes to a chinese-manufacture gear brand given they're all notorious for coming up smaller than they say. They're cheap enough it wouldn't be the end of the world if I got the wrong size, but if anybody's bought this model recently or knows anyone who has, your experience would come in handy. Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted September 27, 2016 Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 That's odd. I have some older TMCs which are medium and they are 32" waist. Maybe worth e-mailing EBB to double check. They're usually quite helpful. Link to post Share on other sites
Wingmann Posted September 27, 2016 Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 I don't know the difference between these and FFI, but FFI has got regular military sizing. Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLite Posted September 27, 2016 Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 They're... alright. Bump up a size with these (IE: What they claim is a 32" is closer to a 30") and also be careful washing them - cold only and no detergent because they fade easily. Otherwise, the stitching is ok, they work and the price is pretty alright. Link to post Share on other sites
Got Wood? Posted September 27, 2016 Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 If Emerson has done the same pattern, go for theirs. And before anyone says it they are not the same. Link to post Share on other sites
abbadon101 Posted September 27, 2016 Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 Have to agree with the emerson version. I have a set of their black AC cut trousers and for the price I am actually quite impressed. Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted September 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 That's odd. I have some older TMCs which are medium and they are 32" waist. Maybe worth e-mailing EBB to double check. They're usually quite helpful. I'll give them a shout, I'd sort of assumed they'd not be of much help even in the unlikely event they did reply, truth be told. They're... alright. Bump up a size with these (IE: What they claim is a 32" is closer to a 30") and also be careful washing them - cold only and no detergent because they fade easily. Otherwise, the stitching is ok, they work and the price is pretty alright. 'Alright' is about the best I was expecting realistically. They'll just be a place holder until something better comes along. You have a pair of the exact model? If Emerson has done the same pattern, go for theirs. And before anyone says it they are not the same. Have to agree with the emerson version. I have a set of their black AC cut trousers and for the price I am actually quite impressed. Sadly TMC's my only option, but as I say, they'll probably do the job for the 1-2 games I maybe end up wearing them. To be honest I'm mostly just filling up an empty hanger when I've decided these need to go and my collection OCD is just overpowering. Link to post Share on other sites
Pdubyuh Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 The allwin sets from Dragon red are alright I have them in aor 1&2 and they seem pretty decent its the full set rather than just the trousers though? http://dragonredairsoft.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=33_35&products_id=206 Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted October 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 I went ahead and ordered the TMCs, as I say they had a specific colour I wanted that nobody else offers. Cheers though. Link to post Share on other sites
Pdubyuh Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 cool it was the woodland set i linked to was that not what you were after? glad you're sorted all the same Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted October 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 I can see where you're coming from, but no I went for Beyond when I picked up my Woodland set. Got the TMCs in grey. Link to post Share on other sites
druid799 Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 I know you probably did but I DO hope ordered a size larger than normal , just take deliver of a pair of AOR2 from Emerson supposedly a 34-36 . Quality of manufacture is really good but I'm a 34 and there tight on me (but luckily not uncomfortable) . I'll accept it from an Asian retailer but it's b****y annoying for me when UK retailers that are selling them are listing them with the same Asian size scale , no change or warning about the size difference even though they know there smaller than listed sizes . Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted October 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 Their chart size put me in a small, I went medium, which EB also echoed. Fingers crossed. If not.. not the end of the world. I honestly wouldn't expect anything different from many UK retailers. If you look at the ones that sell the more beginner-oriented kit, they're making less profit per item and making money on turning over bulk. The warehouse floor workers aren't very likely to give a *suitcase*, they see what's on the label and put it on the site, or more likely the people running the site just copy + paste everything from EBA; that definitely happens a lot. They've got too much quantity of product to process to be worrying about doing anything above and beyond the minimum. Plus even if they did pull one of every size out the packets and run tape measures against them and make a custom size chart for each line of a certain item (really not going to happen), if it's ACM stuff you'll get some potentially big variances from manufacturer. Hell Crye make mistakes, you just can't expect much when buying budget priced replicas from shops that carry such things. It's only really the owners of most shops that are in to this game, there'll be plenty of people managing inventory, updating web stores etc who have literally no knowledge about gear or guns or airsoft and aren't interested in the slightest. Don't get me wrong there will be exceptions, it is unfortunate and annoying and I apologise if that comes across as snobby, but I think that's just the reality we're in. Link to post Share on other sites
druid799 Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 No offence taken , don't get me wrong not expecting them to 'quality' check every product but FFS ! even the HK sites warn 'Asian sizes are smaller than western sizes ' ! If I buy from a British seller (and were not exactly talking sports direct volume are we ?) then even a small hint of knowledge about what products your selling is not too much to ask ? im buying from a 'home' retailer so I think I should be able to expect the size Iisted to match the product as it is known problem ? Any hoo back from a sever tangent have worn them most of the day and first impressions? Very good indeed ! Gave them a wash at normal washing temp (can't be arsed with hand cold washing) I know only the first but no colour loss noted at all . Link to post Share on other sites
Pdubyuh Posted October 7, 2016 Report Share Posted October 7, 2016 I can see where you're coming from, but no I went for Beyond when I picked up my Woodland set. Got the TMCs in grey. Ah i see I went with LBX and Arcteryx when i went grey Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted October 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2016 I've got the Arc Talos set and a Velocity BOSS rugby shirt in grey, but I wanted something in the G3 cut as well. Well.. something I could put Crye pads in anyway, just a preference. Link to post Share on other sites
Pdubyuh Posted October 7, 2016 Report Share Posted October 7, 2016 cool, Talos FTW Ive still not got round to getting any knee caps I should do as theyre supposed to be the mutts and id be interested to see how they work compared to crye pads/ Link to post Share on other sites
druid799 Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 Another update on the Emerson G3 clones , have now warn them in two full scurmish days and I'm liking them more and more ! They are so comfortable now they've 'settled down' for the price can't recommend them enuf . Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted October 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 As it turns out, EBA literally just refunded me for the TMC trousers, guess they had no stock. Not sure whether I'll bother re-ordering. Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLite Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Alas. Unfortunately EBA don't tend to keep proper stock levels on their website, they'll just take the money and refund you later if they don't have them in stock. Have you tried http://shootercbgear.com/ or https://shop.jkarmy.com/ EDIT: If you're specifically after the Grey pants, here's an alternative link or two:http://tinyurl.com/j9wz5og http://tinyurl.com/zabv3b7 http://tinyurl.com/z2bzra5 Link to post Share on other sites
Pdubyuh Posted December 2, 2016 Report Share Posted December 2, 2016 CK if you still want grey crye types i just found these http://www.arktisoutdoor.co.uk/C222-ranger-trousers-pants-tactical-grey theyre Arkitis so theyre not cheap but you know itll be quality Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted December 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2016 Got those already xDThey sent me 2 pairs of the new iteration to try out and review (MC and Grey), had them here for 6-7 weeks or so now, but they don't quite fit Crye pads quite perfectly. They're bloody close, but the opening in the pad pockets is just a couple of mm too short. Might buy a set once they get the issue worked out but I'm on the fence right now with the stretch fabric being black. Link to post Share on other sites
Pdubyuh Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 looks like i'm too late to the party Link to post Share on other sites
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