Wooly_Booly Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 Airsoft is looking to be pretty good this year. "In 2015, the relationship between the two companies began to erode after Cybergun allegedly defaulted on royalty payments. By Sig’s calculations, Cybergun owes over $215,000 in back royalty payments. “Even though the (master license agreement) requires Cybergun to pay royalties quarterly, it has not made a royalty payment to Sig Sauer since October 2015,” the complaint says." Forgive the long link. http://www.guns.com/2017/01/27/sig-sauer-alleges-breach-of-contract-infringement-against-air-soft-maker-cybergun/?utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+Trending+Content&utm_content=588b5bc204d301079e3e0fc6&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook Link to post Share on other sites
Got Wood? Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 Please let this be the nail in the coffin. Having just won the US Defence bid for handguns they'll have the money to pursue it... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Link to post Share on other sites
LordElpus Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 I think the sum of money they are owed is more than enough to chase it. That said, I am perfectly happy to hear that Cybergun is getting a kicking. Link to post Share on other sites
Habakure Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 In the balls. Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 I'm liking 2017 already. Link to post Share on other sites
Brigg Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 wow, thats pretty ballsy of cybergun. Lets hope Sig's lawyers wring them for every penny and then interest. Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 This pleases me greatly. Fuck them. Link to post Share on other sites
Gunmane Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 The only thing that has made me smile so far this year. Link to post Share on other sites
Lone_Bullet Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 **GRIN** That is all. [EDIT] My avatar basically. Link to post Share on other sites
tquilha Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch :D Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 Weird. Cybergun was posting Sig stuff on Facebook just a couple days ago. Not sure what they were expecting. https://www.facebook.com/cybergun/posts/1449087351769557 Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 Cheeky fuckers have got some gall. Link to post Share on other sites
Mike 8-{> Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 Cheeky *fruitcage*ers have got some gall. Dont you mean "gaul" ;) Link to post Share on other sites
blobface Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 Entirely side note: Now that the Sig P320 has been adopted by the US Army, and Cybercun is in the shits with Sig, I wonder who's going to make an inevitable airsoft version....umm... Link to post Share on other sites
Mike 8-{> Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 Entirely side note: Now that the Sig P320 has been adopted by the US Army, and Cybercun is in the *suitcases* with Sig, I wonder who's going to make an inevitable airsoft version....umm... The last paragraph of the article could answer that? "Sig Sauer launched its own line of airsoft rifles and pistols in late 2015, offering full-scale replicas of their most popular line of guns to include the MCX, MPX, P226 and P320 handguns. Showcased at SHOT Show 2017, the line has seen an uptick in interest as more shooters turn to airsoft to augment live fire training, according to Sig reps." Which could also explain why Sig are bringing the case? Why continue to licence the designs when you are making your own airsoft versions? Link to post Share on other sites
Inspector Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 The only thing is though they article is misinformed. They're making air rifles and pellet rifles, not 6mm airsoft guns. I wouldn't be surprised however if someone else grabs the Sig licenses at this point. With the XM17 just announced I would imagine that they're comping at the bits for a replica. Link to post Share on other sites
Beeingmyself Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 The last paragraph of the article could answer that? "Sig Sauer launched its own line of airsoft rifles and pistols in late 2015, offering full-scale replicas of their most popular line of guns to include the MCX, MPX, P226 and P320 handguns. Showcased at SHOT Show 2017, the line has seen an uptick in interest as more shooters turn to airsoft to augment live fire training, according to Sig reps." Which could also explain why Sig are bringing the case? Why continue to licence the designs when you are making your own airsoft versions? Why not? Make their own production line and make money earning money of others work without lifting a finger and just recieve money - seem like a good deal. Would soooooooo much hope Sig has teamed up with some competent people so their airsoft guns are topquality Hoping KSC S7 But to be able to drytraining with airsoftguns it would be nice if it mean that you can swap out triggers and triggerpart to be able to have a realistic triggerpull Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 Would soooooooo much hope Sig has teamed up with some competent people so their airsoft guns are topquality Hoping KSC S7 I wouldn't quite say competent. They've been making GBBs for decades and they're still using silicone rubber for the piston lid, silicone rubber which gradually gets eaten up by the oil in its very propellant. Link to post Share on other sites
1st Commando Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 As far as I can tell Sig will not be granting a licence to anyone else . They intend to go back to distributing airsoft versions themselves like they did years ago (albeit very few models) I just hope Sig choose a decent OEM ,(maybe VFC) as they used KJW last time . They basically sold a fully marked KJW P226 on their websites . In other news Concern Kalashnikov are still pursuing a similar claim against Cybergun dating back to last year Link to post Share on other sites
bladerunner168 Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 As far as I can tell Sig will not be granting a licence to anyone else . They intend to go back to distributing airsoft versions themselves like they did years ago (albeit very few models) I just hope Sig choose a decent OEM ,(maybe VFC) as they used KJW last time . They basically sold a fully marked KJW P226 on their websites . I think that MCX was at the Palco stand, so maybe they're doing the OEM for Sig. Link to post Share on other sites
1st Commando Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 No, Palco is Cybergun . Cybergun bought Palco and put everything at the show in their name (probably because so many people are negative to Cg in the US or possibly because of this impending suit) Link to post Share on other sites
Habakure Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 They're in the suit, nothing impeding about it. This will be the nail in the coffin unless they cough up the money (that Cybergun owes Sig). Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 Dont you mean "gaul" ;) You confused me for a second. I was thinking, no, I mean gall and then, 'ah, because they're French' Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Honestly, I'm liking 2017 all around so far (one month down). There's some good gear/gun/airsoft stuff on the way and now I'd say it's fairly probably that CG will totally cease to exist. I don't reckon they've got $200,000+ & legal fees (which in the US will be another 100k?) sitting around. Link to post Share on other sites
Lone_Bullet Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Honestly, I'm liking 2017 all around so far (one month down). There's some good gear/gun/airsoft stuff on the way and now I'd say it's fairly probably that CG will totally cease to exist. I don't reckon they've got $200,000+ & legal fees (which in the US will be another 100k?) sitting around. You mind telling us about the good airsoft stuff coming up? ^^ Sent from my C6603 using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites
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