Dolnage Posted May 19, 2017 Report Share Posted May 19, 2017 Greetings! Has anyone tried Inokatsu P226 CO2 mags before? It seems that they've been around for at least a couple of years. Quite curious that I haven't seen a single post about these puppies anywhere, pimped P226's tend to be horribly unreliable when using green gas and CO2 really helps. I have four Inokatsu mags and I'm using TM based P226, although the only original parts are the grips and rear sight.. Mostly Guarder and KJW, externally and internally. With weaker hammer and recoil spring the gun doesn't cycle but with 150% hammer spring the recoil is awesome. The thing is, I'm still getting only ~315fps out of the gun! I'm using KJW CO2 nozzle, Marui and AIP nozzles give phenomenal bang and power but as the slide goes backwards, the nozzles fly out of the gun, usually in more than two pieces. Soo, Has anyone figured how to use tune-up nozzles and valves with 150% hammer spring and Ino CO2 mags? Just if anyone cares, here's the parts list: Ext: Guarder P226 Navy frameGuarder old style trigger Guarder takedown lever Guarder decocking lever Guarder slide catch Guarder mag catchGuarder grip screws Guarder outer barrelCreation "SIG" engraved ( ) hammer Prime dummy firing pin Int: Falcon inner barrel and hop up rubber Guarder recoil spring guide UAC blow back unit UAC mag seal rubbers Guarder 150% recoil spring Guarder 150% hammer spring Shooters design valve knocker KJW CO2 nozzle KJW trigger housing KJW trigger bar KJW hammer housing KJW mag catch spring thingy Some random MAG, KJW, Marui springs inside hammer housing. Seems quite stiff. Link to post Share on other sites
suomipoika Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 I'm really interested in this topic too. I've been planning to do Sig build but because of our cold weather I don't want to use anything else than Co2. Link to post Share on other sites
PureSilver Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 Greetings! Has anyone tried Inokatsu P226 CO2 mags before? It seems that they've been around for at least a couple of years. Quite curious that I haven't seen a single post about these puppies anywhere, pimped P226's tend to be horribly unreliable when using green gas and CO2 really helps. I have four Inokatsu mags and I'm using TM based P226, although the only original parts are the grips and rear sight.. Mostly Guarder and KJW, externally and internally. With weaker hammer and recoil spring the gun doesn't cycle but with 150% hammer spring the recoil is awesome. The thing is, I'm still getting only ~315fps out of the gun! I'm using KJW CO2 nozzle, Marui and AIP nozzles give phenomenal bang and power but as the slide goes backwards, the nozzles fly out of the gun, usually in more than two pieces. Soo, Has anyone figured how to use tune-up nozzles and valves with 150% hammer spring and Ino CO2 mags? I've been using Inokatsu CO2 magazines for years now in an Inokatsu P226, and two TM-based all-PGC/Guarder P226s that have even fewer TM parts than yours. My guns run just fine with 150% recoil springs and the factory Marui hammer springs; I have had one spectacular nozzle failure as you described (a Wii-Tech that shot the rocket valve out of the barrel) but even the factory TM nozzles seem to be holding up reasonably well in the PGCs. I suspect it's the huge volume of gas released by the harder hammer strikes that's blowing up your nozzles. IMO the 150% hammer spring is a waste of time and you should start by discarding it and trying to find out what is stopping the gun cycling without it; you're treating a symptom, not the cause. Even my all-steel Inokatsu will cycle - not well, but it will - with propane and a regular TM spring; your aluminium Guarder should not have any difficulty cycling, especially with the lightweight UAC BBU. For me the stronger hammer spring has never been required (in British weather; maybe if you live in a tropical climate you'll need it). Once you're not dumping way too much gas into the gun you should stop blowing up your nozzles, and at that point you can try porting the valves/fiddling with rocket valves etc. to try and get more power. Link to post Share on other sites
Dolnage Posted June 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 I think you're absolutely right on what's destroying my nozzles. Gotta find a less stiff hammer spring and try to test where I can get reliable shots out of the gun. Also the slide may have a bit too much friction.Or harass UAC to make aluminium nozzles for SIG Link to post Share on other sites
PureSilver Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 Or harass UAC to make aluminium nozzles for SIG Wii-Tech certainly used to make aluminium P226 nozzles (I had at least two and didn't like them very much) but I can't find them on their site any more. Maybe they've been discontinued. Link to post Share on other sites
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