Shrike6 Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 Hi, I'm in the market to replace my poor CA MP5a3 that exploded when it was dropped muzzle-first on a concrete floor at a convention--shattered the tabs holding the gas tube onto the receiver and the tabs that joined the receiver to the pistol grip/selector group. I want an AEG made of either high quality aluminum or steel instead of crappy pot metal so this doesn't happen again, but I want an MP5a3, not the a5 or a4 variants that Umarex currently makes. I have loads of AEG magazines for it, so I'd lose out by purchasing/building a Umarex a3 GBB. Can I swap out an a3 trigger group on the Umarex Mp5a5, or am I going to have to look elsewhere? There's been some mention of LCT making an MP5 model eventually with high quality metals, but I'd rather build something now if it's available. Any advice would be appreciated, thanks! Link to post Share on other sites
CZFan Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 The only way you will get what you want is if you put a kit on it.. no out of the box is made of high quality metal, ever, regardless of the price or what they may claim. Your choice of gun also pretty much limits you to stock units only. Umarex stuff is 99% made by VFC which are ok, but metals are no different than anything else out there. Internals are V2 so you can go wild inside. outside tho, you are stuck with what you get iirc the only steel aeg out of the box ever that im aware of is from some Chinese company that is no more that used decommissioned AK47 bodies and made them into airsoft.. they were meh otherwise though, certainly not worth it. Link to post Share on other sites
The Disavowed Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 Are you able to post a picture of exactly what you want it to look like? Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 Don't SRC make steel mp5's? Re a3: there is this kit but it says its for "early model" only so not sure.. http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/fe-mp5a3-conversion-full-kit-for-gandg-cyma-ics-src-mp5-aeg-early-model.html#.WWtUWYTythE Link to post Share on other sites
Gigueand Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 Are SRC MP5 even available anywhere? They've been reported as the nicest MP5s on the market, body-wise, for years and yet I don't think I've seen a single one in the U.S. Link to post Share on other sites
mimesis Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 The upcoming LCT G3 is going to be steel, isn't it? Link to post Share on other sites
1st Commando Posted July 19, 2017 Report Share Posted July 19, 2017 CZfan seems to forget about a huge number of Steel bodied airsoft rifles available but never mind . The newer Umarex ones (VFC with burst feature) are actually really really nice and feel as solid as the steel bodied GBB . The aeg is either very firm Ally or steel but i'll have to check . The body is also correct length so takes real foregrips but because of the burst system you may have difficulty with the SEF selector group Edit- I just checked and the VFC is certainly steel although obviously quite thin due to the gearbox etc Link to post Share on other sites
Shrike6 Posted July 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2017 Doesn't necessarily have to be steel--aluminum would be fine as well. My main issue was the design weakness where the gas tube attaches to the receiver with two tabs and if those break, your gun is junk. I want a solution to this issue and I want it as an MP5a3. Bonus points if I can still use the flashlight foregrip that came with my CA MP5a3. All my other accessories should still work just fine--the MP5 offset laser mount, low-pro red dot. Link to post Share on other sites
1st Commando Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 The Umarex VFc does not have that juncture as it is built like the real MP5. Your CA torch grip will fit but you will likely need to remove the small tabs at the back of the foregrip as the VFC also has the correct length reciever Link to post Share on other sites
The Disavowed Posted July 22, 2017 Report Share Posted July 22, 2017 The same would apply to an src mp5. For what it is worth, I would say get one and throw away your flashlight grip, it is much more worth your while to purchase a vfc grip (or other make with the correct dimensions and locking lugs) which doesn't use those crappy little tabs to secure it, you will be much happier. As with the tube, it will feel much more solid. Link to post Share on other sites
CZFan Posted July 22, 2017 Report Share Posted July 22, 2017 CZfan seems to forget about a huge number of Steel bodied airsoft rifles available but never mind . The newer Umarex ones (VFC with burst feature) are actually really really nice and feel as solid as the steel bodied GBB . The aeg is either very firm Ally or steel but i'll have to check . The body is also correct length so takes real foregrips but because of the burst system you may have difficulty with the SEF selector group Edit- I just checked and the VFC is certainly steel although obviously quite thin due to the gearbox etc Out of the box? which ones. The one I was thinking was real sword. What else? Do genuinely want to know so don't just make that statement and list nothing. Its rude ;p Link to post Share on other sites
Lone_Bullet Posted July 22, 2017 Report Share Posted July 22, 2017 Real sword, LCT and E&L in order of quality. But then again, theybare known for their AK's, which are steel in real life. Hell, some Cyma's are steel and known for being a solid starter AK. You won't see any steel AR15, G36's, Scars or 805 BREN's for obvious reasons. MP5's however, I too find them not convinsing in the quality aspect. I don't know any standard steel bodied MP5's. Perhaps after the LCT's G3 they do a MP5? Sent from my C6603 using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites
LJ.NL Posted July 22, 2017 Report Share Posted July 22, 2017 I don't know any standard steel bodied MP5's.ICS MX5 Proline AEG's have steel bodies. (Get the one with the normal body, not the weird/modern looking one, change the handguard and you got a solid MP5 replica) Link to post Share on other sites
CZFan Posted July 22, 2017 Report Share Posted July 22, 2017 Real sword, LCT and E&L in order of quality. But then again, theybare known for their AK's, which are steel in real life. Hell, some Cyma's are steel and known for being a solid starter AK. You won't see any steel AR15, G36's, Scars or 805 BREN's for obvious reasons. MP5's however, I too find them not convinsing in the quality aspect. I don't know any standard steel bodied MP5's. Perhaps after the LCT's G3 they do a MP5? Sent from my C6603 using Tapatalk G36 is one of these things that we cant have in real life.. like a psg1. Good info. I see CYMA makes the zinc bodied ak as well. the steel one is stamped and not milled but for the price, I might actually pick one up just to hang on the wall. not going to hijack the mp5 thread more (which im actually interested in ever since I passed on an echo1 many eons ago.) Link to post Share on other sites
1st Commando Posted July 22, 2017 Report Share Posted July 22, 2017 Just off what is around me at the moment with steel body out of the box AEGs - VFC MP5 Cyma Mp5 E&L AKs LCT AKs Real Sword AKs LCT G3 G&G FNC G&G SA80 series Ares SA80 series GBB - WE Mp5 VFC MP5 GHK ak WE AK WE SVD (steel version) Link to post Share on other sites
Wingmann Posted July 22, 2017 Report Share Posted July 22, 2017 I'd wait for the LCT MP5. Link to post Share on other sites
Lone_Bullet Posted July 23, 2017 Report Share Posted July 23, 2017 I'd wait for the LCT MP5.Ah? You sure they'd do one? Sent from my C6603 using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites
The Disavowed Posted July 23, 2017 Report Share Posted July 23, 2017 I never realised cyma did a steel mp5. I like their mp5s but all the ones I have seen have the tube as a separate piece, just like the ca. My experience with them is that they are actually very good, unlike the car which seems to fall apart out of the box. Link to post Share on other sites
Wingmann Posted July 24, 2017 Report Share Posted July 24, 2017 Ah? You sure they'd do one? Sent from my C6603 using Tapatalk I'm quite so. There have been several pictures with the G3 and MP5 bodies side by side, and it makes sense they share the building technique with the two most iconic HK weapons. Link to post Share on other sites
Lone_Bullet Posted July 24, 2017 Report Share Posted July 24, 2017 Whooooooooooooooooooooo# I soooo hope they also do GBBR, since gext gen is too much to ask and understandable so. Sent from my C6603 using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites
BigAl Posted July 29, 2017 Report Share Posted July 29, 2017 Also in steel are the Inokatsu 1911’s, there P226 Kit the Redwold ( iirc ) Nighthawk and the KImbers ( forget who makes them ). The Maruzen KG99 also used to be made from Steel. Link to post Share on other sites
1st Commando Posted July 29, 2017 Report Share Posted July 29, 2017 If you get into pistols there are actually a lot of factory built steel pistols . More than you would expect Link to post Share on other sites
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