renegadecow Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 Link to post Share on other sites
BerserkDS Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 -USP full size -Hicapa E variant, probably a 4.3 length or a "Race" style version. -Ak47 Recoil Shock Link to post Share on other sites
Lone_Bullet Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 Usp and ak are very welcome! Sent from my C6603 using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites
wildething Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 Really wish that was a para ordinance. Rather than a hi capa Link to post Share on other sites
ninja master of coffee Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 Such a shame they dropped the AK-74M recoil. Cool if they're looking at new recoil AKs though. Link to post Share on other sites
Lone_Bullet Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 Let hope LCT and E&L learn this time. Or simply copy a next gen tm system Sent from my C6603 using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites
46templar Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 Are you give us a Lee Enfield 303 mk4 Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites
Got Wood? Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 Which part of an AK is in that picture? Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted September 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 Which part of an AK is in that picture? Back of the top cover, showing a bit of the stock and no rivets so it's looking like a type 3 AK. Link to post Share on other sites
Got Wood? Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 Ah okay. I thought it was that bit, but the 3rd black section at the top of the reveal had me guessing Link to post Share on other sites
thartwig Posted September 22, 2017 Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 But wait everyone, there's "and more!!" Link to post Share on other sites
blobface Posted September 25, 2017 Report Share Posted September 25, 2017 Let's hope the AKs stop firing when empty like the KWA ERG does unlike their old recoils, however, being TM, still no steel... Come to think of it actually, the AK could be a GBBR? Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted September 25, 2017 Report Share Posted September 25, 2017 Are people even interested in the recoil AK line? I see waaaaay more LCTs et al on the field (and obviously AR variants and SCARs in terms of other recoil guns). I may just be missing some large user group and quite happy to admit as such, but the lack of stop-on-empty just completely kills that line for me personally. Been a long while since they put out a new one though so could be a surprise in store. Link to post Share on other sites
blobface Posted September 25, 2017 Report Share Posted September 25, 2017 One of my current projects is to transplant the KWA ERG AK internals into an E&L steel kit, I've a sent them off to be machined to fit, which might not work at all, risky project. My issue with airsoft AKs is that the lack of stop on empty is a buzzkill, and the lack of steel is an even bigger buzzkill, and the full steel CTW AK has no recoil also a buzzkill, they manage to attempt AK AEGs so many times, with each iteration missing a vital piece the others have, so the only option so far has been GBBRs... Link to post Share on other sites
Gunmane Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 I own various dboys kalashes, a RS svd, and a LCT RPK, but if there was a TM locally that wasn't beyond the price of the latter (and if I still actually got out to shoot them) I'd grab a TM one in a heartbeat. I know airsplat during their whole upheaval had some 102's at lower price a year back or so but that was about it. I've seen some folks like the fellow that runs the Northern Pact page run a TM with great success, and despite not being steel or real spec, I feel the owners of them enjoy them just as much. IIRC, a mate staying over in Japan (Vorpal) has talked to TM over the years and at one point got the comment that next to the vsr sound models, the ak recoils were the most underwhelming releases for TM, hence their discontinuation. I feel like they released them too late in the end. I'd like a TM magic pixie dust ak in a more up to date build construction, but it just doesn't sell for them as much as everything else they produce. Link to post Share on other sites
Lone_Bullet Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 Are people even interested in the recoil AK line? I see waaaaay more LCTs et al on the field (and obviously AR variants and SCARs in terms of other recoil guns). I may just be missing some large user group and quite happy to admit as such, but the lack of stop-on-empty just completely kills that line for me personally. Been a long while since they put out a new one though so could be a surprise in store. I am. I'd love E&L or LCT having a next gen AK line.Even ASG EVO recoil less system is nive to have. Sent from my C6603 using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 Bear in mind when I say the recoil line I very specifically mean the existing TM offerings. So as Gunmane says, the answer to my question is essentially no given how little TM have apparently sold of them. Fingers crossed they've shaken things up for this new model. If the previous ones had lacklustre sales performance and they've gone back to the older design, there's a chance they might've made some significant change. Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted September 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 Ooor it's just a High Cycle with an ABS body. Link to post Share on other sites
blobface Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 Ooor it's just a High Cycle with an ABS body. Full steel Gindan. Link to post Share on other sites
Lone_Bullet Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 Bear in mind when I say the recoil line I very specifically mean the existing TM offerings. So as Gunmane says, the answer to my question is essentially no given how little TM have apparently sold of them. Fingers crossed they've shaken things up for this new model. If the previous ones had lacklustre sales performance and they've gone back to the older design, there's a chance they might've made some significant change. That's probably because they only added a bit of recoil to the AK series, and I believe that required a new type of gearbox in the AK. Not worth it then to me. I'd wanted the bolt-stop function and I still do. They let me down a little compared with the NG AR's, 416's and Scar's. Link to post Share on other sites
ninja master of coffee Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 The lack of stop on empty does seem like a missed point. My personal take on the whole Tokyo Marui recoil AK thing was that they got killed by all the GBBR AKs out there, and with AEGs you can get a mostly steel AEG for under 200 euros, or a really nice pretty much entirely steel one for over 200 euros. That said I really enjoyed shooting a recoil AK-102, though I felt it was an odd model to go for. For a no fuss, great out of the box recoil replica it did everything I wanted it to, but by the time I realised that they'd already stopped production of the AK-74m. A recoil AK-47 has me less excited, a recoil AKM that stopped on empty would be fantastic. Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted September 28, 2017 Report Share Posted September 28, 2017 So. What are the bets that 'and more' will be anything interesting or just some derivative of something? I'm not holding my breath but I can't remember if the AA12 was out of the blue so could be something good I suppose. Link to post Share on other sites
BerserkDS Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 So your prayers have been answered. The new Ak47 has stop firing on empty feature. Link to post Share on other sites
Zereck Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 Why 47 tough? I don't even think it's a popular model. AKM would have been better IMO. Or something modern. The other announcements are kinda meh to me(the USP should have been out sooner). The only intresting thing for me was the red dot. Finally a small dot that can withstand pistol recoil? Link to post Share on other sites
ninja master of coffee Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 Maybe the AK-47 appeals to the Japanese buyer base? Anyway, cool that it has stop on empty, hopefully it will sell well enough that they do stuff like an AKM, maybe even revamp the AK-74 series. Link to post Share on other sites
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