Got Wood? Posted March 30, 2019 Report Share Posted March 30, 2019 Just realised all my spelling mistakes and now see why I had you confused about the mag release. Always meant to say slide. Soz! Link to post Share on other sites
Got Wood? Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 So a little more on the slide release’s new design. This evening I took a closer look at how my mag springs and the slide release were interacting. I have stretched the magazine springs so that they push the release harder. Standard they are barely enough to do the job. Weird. So now that they push the slide release up further, I have also noticed that the 2 sides are not symmetrical, which seems odd as the right side doesn’t actually stop the slide at all. It’s slightly thinner in profile, which means that it stops short of its recess in the slide. Think this is probably another manufacturing floor. Thankfully I really like the profile of the 19x, and it’s seeing great popularity in the real community after the initial hatred, so I’m happy to roll with it now that I’ve fixed the problems. The slide releases do not naturally sit at the same height. There is flex in the left side, as I’ve stretched the magazine springs this now travels to full height against the slide. Slide release stops short of stopping the slide on the new side. Recess’ in the slide are identical on both sides. Due to the low height on the left slide release, its already chipped a corner off the slide. Quite a shame as it could have been avoided by designing the 2 sides to work together and share the load. Link to post Share on other sites
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NonEx Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 Pretty sure the right side slide catch is just an ambi release in reality on the airsoft models to reduce friction and slide wear. It should work as a release, but the left hand side will act as both catch and release. Nothing to worry about really if you can release it ambidextrously. Meaning, if it were to catch on both sides, and you try to release it from just one side, the friction of both sides locking up would make it significantly harder to release and also cause more wear and damage to the slide. This is due to the materials used in airsoft and their durability and as you mention the flex in the ambi slide release design as well. Can't recall what gun or model but I am pretty sure I have seen exactly that on a previous pistol with ambi slide release controls. Only catching on the left hand side, but I could release it from both sides. My VFC PPQ or FNX maybe? (don't have either of those anymore so can't check). Link to post Share on other sites
icolater Posted April 2, 2019 Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 Yes VFC FNS did the same thing, ambi slide catch only interacts with the slide on one side, Link to post Share on other sites
Got Wood? Posted April 2, 2019 Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 Ah. Good to know it’s not a defect then! Link to post Share on other sites
Wingman Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 Just broke out one of my PPQ's and both levers do go up when the slide locks back on a empty magazine. Link to post Share on other sites
icolater Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 but only one lever comes in contact with the slide Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 Exactly. Link to post Share on other sites
Got Wood? Posted May 17, 2019 Report Share Posted May 17, 2019 But more of an update. Ran this a couple of weeks ago, but it kept jamming on the slide travelling rearward, rather than forward. At first I thought this was due to the hammer spring being a little too strong, or some sharp edges. So I have filed these corners down a little smoother, there was also a moulding mark in the blowback unit that would travel over the knocker reset, and I though that was causing the jam. Filing these didn’t seem to fix. On taking the blowback unit apart for a cleanup and not to file any plastic, putting it back together I noticed that the piston lid no longer sits solidly in place. Screwing it all the way in still allows about 1-2mm of movement backward and forwards, and some tilting as such. Now I think that the jam is due to the nozzle having the same movement against the magazine router, and the piston lid. When it jams rearward, it piston is retracted, but not off the router yet, and removing the mag releases the slide 50% of the time. Not seen this issue with the lid before. Has anyone else? Interestingly a spare KJW nozzle would fit. The WE nozzle would not fit the KJW Link to post Share on other sites
Got Wood? Posted May 18, 2019 Report Share Posted May 18, 2019 Performance was better today, but my KJW/Guarder build still blew it out of the water. Hammer spring swapped out for a weaker one, has helped a large amount. Also swapped out an Antifreeze cylinder bulb. Only problem left is the recoil rod tilting. Seems designed, but caused a less smooth cycle Link to post Share on other sites
Got Wood? Posted June 11, 2019 Report Share Posted June 11, 2019 Getting a little frustrated with mine in all honesty. Even in the warmer weather it’s just not performing as well as an Army Armament 17. For now I’ve tried removing the heavier springs on the hammer and recoil, which resulted in low power. I’ve now cut a recoil spring down to size which is a little weaker, but kept the heavier hammer spring in for that punch. Bit disappointing as I love the look and profile. But for whatever reason it’s just low on power, and the stock springs set up is preventing it cycling decently. Standard recoil and hammer spring means the slide gets stopped by the hammer at the sear engagement point, unless a weaker recoil spring is used, or a weaker hammer spring is used. Take the mag out of the 19X and put it in my 17, instant performance boost comparing the 2. Link to post Share on other sites
Lone_Bullet Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 One would think that a mold would create exact copies and thus you wouldnt have problems. But alas, molds get dirty.Sad truth is airsoft, there will always be lemons..Sent from my H8324 using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites
Got Wood? Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 Yep. I mean I could solve the problem probably with red or black gas, but I like the ABS mags, and I used black in one of them during spring last year, which resulted in the mag blowing in my face and giving me temporary (luckily) freezer burn Link to post Share on other sites
Got Wood? Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 So following on from this, how did the Umarex equivalents stack up against the WE offering? Very little in the way of reviews on performance I can see Link to post Share on other sites
mightyjebus Posted September 6, 2019 Report Share Posted September 6, 2019 I've ran my Umarex G19X for a couple of games now and it's a bit of a tank. Red gas and .28g's seem to be the way to go. I was going to put a RMR on the G19X but to do so I need to drill and tap the plate that comes with the RMR G mount for it to work. Rear sight setup is different from the Umarex normal G19. It seems to like any TM compatible magazine I stick in it and as I found out last weekend if you forget the allen key to adjust the hop you can just pop the slide off and turn it by hand. Link to post Share on other sites
Got Wood? Posted September 6, 2019 Report Share Posted September 6, 2019 Sounds good. I’ve read a few good reviews which surprised me since they’re VFC if I remember right. Picking one up next week anyway along with a team mate. I’d imagine the next release would be with an RMR cut slide so might be better to hold out for that? Link to post Share on other sites
mightyjebus Posted September 6, 2019 Report Share Posted September 6, 2019 Gen 5 frame seems to be the next release..might already be out Link to post Share on other sites
Got Wood? Posted September 7, 2019 Report Share Posted September 7, 2019 I’ve seen the Gen5 17 for sale in places. Link to post Share on other sites
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