renegadecow Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 As many people hate on the WE brand, you have to give them credit in releasing the widest range of unique products (not including double barrel versions) with the latest release having the record as smallest GBB pistol: the CT25. Known as the Colt Junior in real steel, it was originally a licensed copy of the Astra Cub from Spain in the 1950s. It came in .22LR and .25ACP, both holding 6+1 rounds with later produced mags holding 7+1. WE's replica can hold 7+1, comes in black or silver, with or without a threaded barrel and devoid of any markings aside from their logo on the grips. KY Airsoft however offer custom engraved models on their website ranging from the original Astra Cub to Colt licensed (early) and Colt produced (late) versions with accompanying custom logo medallions. I really wanted one of the traded ones at first but importing airsoft guns and even parts have become a pain in my country right now thanks to customs tightening up. Thankfully though one of the local shops brought these in and I quickly picked it up. It is a freakishly tiny gun, slightly smaller even than the NBB 1908 Vest Pocket Hammerless by HFC and SRC, however this does provide enough space on the frame for a two fingered grip with the pinky under the base plate whereas the 1908 only has space for one (pinky and ring finger under the base plate). Being small, everything inside pertaining to GBB functionality is equally in miniature including the blowback unit so recoil is very mild but pleasantly snappy enough. It has a manual safety on the left side which doubles as a slide catch but does not lock the slide back on empty. Instead, when out of bbs, the hammer falls without firing the gun just like the real one does with the chamber empty. It also has a magazine safety which prevents the trigger from moving when the magazine is out of the gun. It shoots an average of 226fps with .20g bbs at 27C and holds enough gas for 30+ rounds which is nothing short of mind boggling given the size of the mag! The hop-up is adjustable via a screw on top of the outer barrel but is of the AWSS design as conventional Tokyo Marui style hop rubbers are simply too big to fit. The sites are a simple ramp front and notch rear but are low and hard to see; guns this size are more suitable for point shooting anyway. Despite that it shoots relatively accurately (while straining the eyes) grouping 5" at 10m however this was after fixing a problem with the outer barrel which I'll discuss more later. To disassemble, remove the magazine and lock the slide back. Rotate the barrel 90 degrees CCW then pull it out 2/3 the way then rotate it back 90 degrees CW and it should pull out of the slide the rest of the way. Disengage the slide lock and the slide can be pulled away from the frame. The recoil spring and guide are not captive but their ends are tight against each other so the two will want to stay on the slide. More on the barrel problem, when I got mine about 1 in 5 shots would veer completely to the left. Checking the muzzle showed that the bbs were indeed hitting the right part of the barrel. To keep with appearances, the crown and fake rifling are .25ACP which is just about as big as a 6mm bb and one of the rifling lands probably had too thick a coat of silver plating that it got in the way. To sort this out I wrapped some 800 grit sandpaper around the smooth end of a 5mm drill bit and sanded down the rifling a hair. I had to take the inner barrel and hop rubber out first so I wouldn't have to worry about scratching or dirtying them up. One more issue that's come up recently now that I've used it some is not having the slide cycle on the last round. It was also shooting a little lower at about 200fps which led me to believe that the valve knocker was only making a glancing blow on the valve. While hardly a deal breaker as the gun still technically spits out the last round, I decided to try and fix it. I figured that the ball-detent inside the magazine had broken in enough (it was the only part that appeared to have any real wear) that it took less pressure from the bb follower to trip the knocker disconnect in the gun. This resulted in prematurely tripping the disconnect function so the valve knocker doesn't get to depress the valve deep enough for the knocker lock/delayer to engage and cycle the slide. To fix it, I cut off about 0.5mm from the top of the bb follower (highlighted in red) where it pushes the silver lever up. You can access the bb follower from the side by removing the plate but be careful of the ball bearing under the silver lever as it's very small. You could also access the bb follower from below by removing the pinned base plate. 3 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted October 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 If anyone's looking to put a suppressor on their CT25, KYairsoft has threaded barrels. Because of how little noise the tiny slide makes, there's definitely a big change with the can on. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ninja master of coffee Posted October 11, 2019 Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 (edited) The fact that this can be meaningfully suppressed make me want one even more. Great review, very informative! Edited October 11, 2019 by ninja master of coffee 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brigg Posted November 15, 2020 Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 Has anyone experienced theirs having light strikes or weak blowback? Mine seems to get like, one good shot, followed by sort of... Bleh shots. Sometimes it doesnt even cycle the slide. From my initial inspection i dont see anything obviously broken or missing though, so im not sure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted November 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 Got this on one of my mags but only on the last shot. Basically the bb follower was too high so the last shot only dealt a glancing blow to the valve. If it's happening all the time, could be a broken valve hold-open/delayer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brigg Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 Interesting you mention that because the last shot on either of my mags wont cause any blowback at all, it just kinda farts out the bb. I think it may just be that the valve delayer is busted. You wouldnt happen to know what part number it is do you? Im looking at the parts diagram on KYAirsoft and im not sure quite which one it is. A19 maybe? I also have a similar issue on my we m84 where the the gun light strikes and I'd be willling to bet its more or less the same reason. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted December 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 (edited) On 11/16/2020 at 2:04 PM, Brigg said: Im looking at the parts diagram on KYAirsoft and im not sure quite which one it is. A19 maybe? A19 does look like the delayer. But may as well check the valve knocker itself (A13) if it's broken or one of springs Edited December 7, 2020 by renegadecow Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Roks Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 (edited) I just ordered this little pistol and was wondering if barrel is innerchangeable as u mentioned above it doesnt use a normal ggb or vsr style rubber but is it a normal barrel? It would be a great way to bump up fps and accurancy. i Looked up on kyairsoft for the treaded barrel but it seems they are not selling them anymore. i just read on evike that the gun is compatible with other 3.8 mags. Edited December 7, 2020 by Rob Roks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted December 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 Inner barrel and hop rubber are proprietary but it does remind me of the barrel set ups of the first gen WE GBBRs, may even be compatible but I doubt anyone is still selling parts for those. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
svman Posted December 31, 2020 Report Share Posted December 31, 2020 Ooooh just seen this. I didn't realise you could buy the threaded barrle separately. Ive just orderd mine and very reasonable at £23.04 shipped to the UK. What silencer is that you are using? Not sure which models will fit. Cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted January 1, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 The barrel has a 11mm female thread so you'll need WE's suppressor or an 11mm to 14mm adapter to fit most other suppressors. I can't remember for sure the brand of the can I have on (they're kinda generic) but I think it measures 30x110mm. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
svman Posted January 4, 2021 Report Share Posted January 4, 2021 Awesome, thank you. Ive ordered the WE one as I quite like the chamfered / conical look at the threaded end. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
svman Posted March 30, 2021 Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 Threaded barrle finally turned up today after months on the boat. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 Steel slides for anyone brave enough http://www.airsoftglobal.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=634_223&products_id=32973 http://www.airsoftglobal.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=634_223&products_id=32974 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Roks Posted April 27, 2021 Report Share Posted April 27, 2021 I've got my junior complete. i wanted to make it cqb ready. So i made a drum mag for it and put on a green gas converter. also got a spitfire tracer unit in front for the flames. it gets some strange faces on the field. the drum mag i used is from a well skorpion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Got Wood? Posted April 27, 2021 Report Share Posted April 27, 2021 A crime has been committed. Why must everyone ram a drum mag when HPA-ing… 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Roks Posted April 27, 2021 Report Share Posted April 27, 2021 it only has 7 rounds in its mag. normaly i do agree with you Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Got Wood? Posted April 27, 2021 Report Share Posted April 27, 2021 Then, what’s with the drum mag? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Roks Posted April 28, 2021 Report Share Posted April 28, 2021 wel the drum has 370 😁 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted April 29, 2021 Report Share Posted April 29, 2021 A drum mag'd Colt .25 is hilarious and that's good enough reason for me. It just needs a happy switch now. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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