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Hi All

Member long time back. Briefly searched, can see reddit etc is popular, but Arnies is where and what I remember, old login and old password worked a dream. Discovered my airsoft collection again in the loft of my family home in unfortunate circumstances. Pre RIF. Pre UKARA. 

I feel the itch again, but don't know where to start, so reaching out.

Ref the guns, many were in parts at the time of storage, but these were stored as is

  • CA B&T MP5 SD3 Full Metal
  • TM AK47 Beta Spetnaz

I'm guessing I wasn't savvy enough to ensure they weren't mid-cycle and springs weren't compressed before storing. NiMH batteries still appear to charge but I have LIPO equivalents can use. I see so many references online to chinese clones etc, struggle to find info on older (and in my opinion brilliant) AEGs. I'm planning on opening up the CA MP5 but only once and only when I have all replacements. Although much surpassed now, this was my faithful companion. I know something, equally I know nothing!

  • I know what Gears and Bushings Are
  • I know what O-Rings Are
  • I understand compression and loss
  • I understand Hop Units but Im fairly sure any Hop Rubber will be compromised after this time but no idea with what or how to replace
  • I saw barrel replacements as being only necessary for long range weapons' 
  • I believe the MP5 has a v2 gearbox which might now be considered old or difficult to replace
  • If it didn't come as stock, I might have replaced plastic bushings with metal ones, recall doing it on some SMG way back when

Literally no idea where to start now. 

On the TM spetnaz, I inherited it or bought it on a whim but never used in anger or on site.  Love the AK series but never got on with this short variant. This one I charged and fired today after many years and it shoots, ranges, and hops, as far and as straight as it did the day I purchased. This is one to sell once I've reviewed legislation.

Also, aside from the various TM AEPs etc which are complete and well stored, found a G36 (SL8 long barreled variant I believe) in bits, Id clearly stripped from top to toe for some daft reason. All externals are there, not sure all mech parts are, trigger, cylinder and gearbox encased, motor present but external (from lower handle I believe) and no clear transition between so maybe missing some gearing. Ill post photos as I rebuild.

Weapons aside, where/how do you start skirmishing again? I'm comfortable starting again as a beginner but don't think I have anything local now. Happy to travel UK if anyone has any recommendations for friendly sites. Bearing in mind this is my experience......

  • When I last played the TM PSG1 AEG (or TM M16v2) was the feared/envied long range weapon (bolt action snipers like VSR10 didnt exist)
  • Showing my age, I used to run a Gas MAC11, no internal cylinders them, was a feed tube attached to external Dual Canisters on my leg/back. Insane ROF when working. but equally everything was wet, cold, and half the time you fired, nothing came out of the barrel. 
  • I still literally have no idea whatsoever what a MOSFET really is despite googling  
  • I never realised that all airsoft triggers were seemingly all awful/flawed and needed to be replaced
  • I realise that now, if its not an M4, its not real airsoft ;)

Regards

NN

 

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Hi welcome back.

Arnies is pretty dead now unfortunately, though this isn't a reflection on UK airsoft as a whole, which covid and lockdown aside does seem pretty healthy. In terms of international airsoft communities there is reddit but otherwise it does seem a bit more fragmented with various facebook groups and discord servers and so forth.

In terms of skirmishing take a look here:

https://playairsoft.uk/

https://airsoftranch.com/uk-airsoft-map/

https://app.airtac.me/#/home  (ignore the sign in and click "map only")

Things have changed with airsoft tech, but not by that much really - certainly you get better bang for your buck and the days of plastic bodied ARs with "barrel wobble" are mercifully in the past. You hardly ever see solid stocked guns as batteries have gotten smaller. GBB has come a decent way and GBBR are far more common then they were pre-2010. There's also HPA set ups like polarstar, which are essentially externally powered non blowbacks built mostly for "performance" rather than "realism". Mosfets are pretty common and have the typical cost-features-quality matrix going on. You already have lipo's which I think is probably the first port of call for someone returning to airsoft after a long break. In terms of assessing your existing guns I'd advise getting a chrono so you can check for any loss of compression or air seal or what have you, hop up is another story completely and I don't really know enough to comment.

Skirmishing hasn't been "game-ified" as much as people seem to complain it is, but certainly there is the meta of 1) fast trigger response especially for cqb. Its a lot easier/cheaper to have a gun with a very fast rof, which has meant that many sites implement a semi auto rule. This has meant more emphasis on snappy semi auto shooting. 2) heavy bb's, and the hop up to lift them, which is more important outdoors than it is indoors.

 

 

 

 

 

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  • I still literally have no idea whatsoever what a MOSFET really is despite googling  "

    A mosfet is an electronic component that acts as a bypass to the physical switch.
    A normal AEG circuit is battery, switch, motor 
    A FET can be imagined as two circuits, battery, fet, motor and then fet, switch. Your control circuit has the physical switch so when you pull the trigger, the fet is connected and the main circuit is activated.


    The reason for the bypass is that physical switches are pretty fragile, arcing burns them out, especially when you dump higher voltages and currents through them than they were intended for, where the average mosfet can handle a lot more. So with a mosfet setup your physical switch only has a tiny current running through it.
    They are made from £2 of components, so naturally they cost £40 or more. 😕


    The big confusion comes because many companies make mosfet boards with also some other feature, but still call it just a 'mosfet'. So you have products sold as 'mosfets' that do contain a mosfet, but also many other things.
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On 6/9/2021 at 12:08 PM, Skarclaw said:

Hi welcome back.

Arnies is pretty dead now unfortunately, though this isn't a reflection on UK airsoft as a whole, which covid and lockdown aside does seem pretty healthy. In terms of international airsoft communities there is reddit but otherwise it does seem a bit more fragmented with various facebook groups and discord servers and so forth.

In terms of skirmishing take a look here:

https://playairsoft.uk/

https://airsoftranch.com/uk-airsoft-map/

https://app.airtac.me/#/home  (ignore the sign in and click "map only")

Things have changed with airsoft tech, but not by that much really - certainly you get better bang for your buck and the days of plastic bodied ARs with "barrel wobble" are mercifully in the past. You hardly ever see solid stocked guns as batteries have gotten smaller. GBB has come a decent way and GBBR are far more common then they were pre-2010. There's also HPA set ups like polarstar, which are essentially externally powered non blowbacks built mostly for "performance" rather than "realism". Mosfets are pretty common and have the typical cost-features-quality matrix going on. You already have lipo's which I think is probably the first port of call for someone returning to airsoft after a long break. In terms of assessing your existing guns I'd advise getting a chrono so you can check for any loss of compression or air seal or what have you, hop up is another story completely and I don't really know enough to comment.

Skirmishing hasn't been "game-ified" as much as people seem to complain it is, but certainly there is the meta of 1) fast trigger response especially for cqb. Its a lot easier/cheaper to have a gun with a very fast rof, which has meant that many sites implement a semi auto rule. This has meant more emphasis on snappy semi auto shooting. 2) heavy bb's, and the hop up to lift them, which is more important outdoors than it is indoors.

 

Hi Skarclaw,

Thanks so much for the response. It might be quiet on here but far from dead given these responses :). Ill look through the links and yes, a chrono seems a great place to start, and trigger tuning. Cheers for the links.

 

 

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On 6/10/2021 at 12:27 AM, ED-SKaR said:

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  • I still literally have no idea whatsoever what a MOSFET really is despite googling  "

    A mosfet is an electronic component that acts as a bypass to the physical switch.
    A normal AEG circuit is battery, switch, motor 
    A FET can be imagined as two circuits, battery, fet, motor and then fet, switch. Your control circuit has the physical switch so when you pull the trigger, the fet is connected and the main circuit is activated.


    The reason for the bypass is that physical switches are pretty fragile, arcing burns them out, especially when you dump higher voltages and currents through them than they were intended for, where the average mosfet can handle a lot more. So with a mosfet setup your physical switch only has a tiny current running through it.
    They are made from £2 of components, so naturally they cost £40 or more. 😕


    The big confusion comes because many companies make mosfet boards with also some other feature, but still call it just a 'mosfet'. So you have products sold as 'mosfets' that do contain a mosfet, but also many other things.

Amaazing, thanks ED-SKaR - I think I get it now! Makes perfect sense :) 

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  • 1 month later...

nice to see a couple familiar names here... unfortunately I forgot my password and email for the old account.

I haven't airsofted at all in all these years, but would be nice to get a workout and socialise with people once rona is confirmed to be "not a threat to the general public"

and yeah I literally don't remember how to maintain my stuff anymore... 

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A mosfet is a electronic device that substitutes the usual trigger, instead of an old school "switch" with a small spak every time you fire mosfets are meant to allow current by the use of solenoids? thus reducing tear in the system. Also they can be programmed for burst for example. There are a shitload of YT videos on how to install and such, with the new lipo batteries I don´t really feel the need (44 inside).

About the gear, you can even buy a full gearbox ready to install and call it a day.

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Funny you should post this, am in the same boat.

After a BBQ at the weekend with my old airsoft team members, we have all been in lofts dusting off our gear, which hasn’t seen the light of day for 10 years, in fact my last post here was March 2011 lol.

Last night, I managed to find a battery, got the pro peak charger working and after an anxious few hours wait, my old 9.6v Mi NH fed power to the systema Turbo motor, inside my KWA M4, which in turn pushed an excel 2.0g tracer BB down a mad bull 6.01 Python tighbore barrel past a TM hop up rubber and out into the night air via a Mk1 TM tracer unit, flying as straight as an arrow and without a mosfet in sight.

Reading through here, I see it’s all lipo batteries, maple leaf hops and warhead motors lol

One disappointed discovery, was a box of my gear seemed to have fallen of the back of the removal company I used a few years ago, when moving. I always expected the dodgy removers had stolen a box or two, but it’s only now I’ve discovered what it contained, TM MP5K, TM sig P228, Glock 17 and Desert eagle hard kick, about 5 motors including 2 systema magnums, gearboxes, pistons, gears, tighbores, chronograph etc 

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