snowman Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 (edited) So, what was your point, then? Have to say, I approve of your sidearm choice - Much more fun than a Hi-Capa, IMO Cheers. Edited July 16, 2005 by snowman Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hissing_Sid Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 God, TM owners are SOOOOO touchy... Actually, I think the meat tenderiser looks just as silly on the WA SVI Tac Carry... or was it that I DARED to challenge the legend of the Hi Capa? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Steady on. The HiCapa was only a legend until the 226 came out. That then took up the role of "Best gunz0rz EVAR". Seriously, I reckon if the HiCapa or 226 were released by KSC or Maruzen they'd just be "okay" or maybe "good". It's just that nobody expects much from Marui and when they release something that is above average everybody freaks out over it. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that if the 226 had been released by Maruzen or KSC it probably would have been ignored by almost everybody. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sledge Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 i've heard some stuff about the slide catch breaking after use? any comments? i'll probably get a metal slide for my future hi capa, and a re-enforced recoil spring too <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The slide catch is fine. What can happen is the notch in the slide for the catch to engage can wear down, so the slide doesn't lock back. Happened to mine, so there's a metal slide en route for it. Intriguingly, this still comes out cheaper than getting the equivalent full metal WA pistol... *Goes to flame reviews of all WA guns* Quote Link to post Share on other sites
snowman Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 (edited) *Goes to flame reviews of all WA guns* Nothing new there, then Rocky, I've not heard of a slide lock/catch breaking anywhere. Did you read it on a forum somewhere? Cheers. Edited July 16, 2005 by snowman Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blitz Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 desert eagle looks better imo more powerful kicks harder ( ALOT ) no variations on it scares people hicrapa faster kick and cycle time and it doesnt beat the almight deagle on anything else the extended mag also looks cheap, BUT the metal lower frame i think is its only good point, oh and the high mag capacity Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Utty Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 Seriously, I reckon if the HiCapa or 226 were released by KSC or Maruzen they'd just be "okay" or maybe "good". It's just that nobody expects much from Marui and when they release something that is above average everybody freaks out over it. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that if the 226 had been released by Maruzen or KSC it probably would have been ignored by almost everybody. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Aha? Maybe people freak out over recent TM guns because they actually work very well out of the box. Which is quite a novelty in the airsoft world, I think, and something that deserves praise. No reason to freak out (in a positive way, anyway) over KSC or Maruzen guns that go 'snap!' or 'pssshhhhh!' or 'kkkruncchh!' or '...', or indeed all of the above. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rocky164 Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 The slide catch is fine. What can happen is the notch in the slide for the catch to engage can wear down, so the slide doesn't lock back. Happened to mine, so there's a metal slide en route for it. Intriguingly, this still comes out cheaper than getting the equivalent full metal WA pistol... *Goes to flame reviews of all WA guns* <{POST_SNAPBACK}> yeah, does flicking the slide catch down after putting a new mag in wear the notch down? because I can't think what else would. If thats the case, I'll be fine, as i normally dont use the catch, just pull the slide back a little and it flicks back of its own accord. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sledge Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 It's more likely to be the catch engaging at speed when it locks. Can't say for certain, and it's the first TM gun I've had this happen on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chrissyg Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 .... hicrapa faster kick and cycle time and it doesnt beat the almight deagle on anything else the extended mag also looks cheap, BUT the metal lower frame i think is its only good point, oh and the high mag capacity <{POST_SNAPBACK}> As you know Blitz the DE has a capacity of 27+1!!! The hi "crapa" has 30+1 so its not so much different (unless they have brought out some mags like the 50rd glock ones... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wege Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 The slide catch is fine. What can happen is the notch in the slide for the catch to engage can wear down, so the slide doesn't lock back. Happened to mine, so there's a metal slide en route for it. Intriguingly, this still comes out cheaper than getting the equivalent full metal WA pistol... *Goes to flame reviews of all WA guns* <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Good lord Sledge.. how many (approx) rounds have you put through yours? I have done a few thou with mine, and it is (the slide) still going strong. (mostly running ET1000, propane, but am out of that now so am back down to 134a) I had my hands on the (insert your brand) Taiwanese metal copy of it, and was impressed but not impressed at the same time. The hammer pull - nice. Gas usage - not nice Fill valve - ooo baby! Magazine finish- I want TM to do that to theirs Metal look- like it is brown or something... Hmmmm.. heft- ok.. cycling of the slide- the TM beats it hands down The trigger-pull felt slightly better than the TM version. I would still go for the TM 5.1 version after that, with the possibility of getting a metal slide (one of the notched ones, for a bit more lightness), and MAYBE outer barrels(ported ) There are times though that the slide lock will not engage, and that is when the temperatures are low. Yesterday playing in a mild 13deg, the slide on the metal 5.1 failed to catch. I also noted that there is a rubber bumper or buffer along the recoil spring guide, close to the "chamber". Any one able to comment on that at all? I also had my hands on the WA SVI 4.3 Expert, and Snowman, I have to agree with you on the finish of the grip. UGH! I get the feeling that it needs a 'rubberising' agent or something to improve the feel. Mind you, slap a pair of Nomex gloves on and you dont notice it at all. The sights rocked (good ol' larger front post dot to give apparent same size with rear). I really like Novaks. The recoil was nice and crisp, as was the feel of the hammer being moved into its positions. (this is with 134a.) Gas usage on 134a I was not able to check/test, but I have been told that ET1000 on this thing is NOT efficient with only 1 magazine able to be fired off, and even then only just. Any other comments on gas? I liked the grip safety 'toughness' to be compressed, but I felt (for my hand ) that the base of it was sticking out a fraction far- just diggin into the meat of my thumb. The trigger-pull was nicer than both of the 5.1s, but I also only had the one installed to play with (it came with the usual SVI trigger variations). The accuracy was impressive but nothing to quantify... jus tha tree knot over there about 7m away! The hop though, was still crying out for adjustment, as he had not read the instructions as yet (also not familiar with the new SCW adjustments), and as such had only put a magazine or two through the 4.3, indoors with limited range, where the hop up is set great for it! Can I ask if the hopup on the 4.3 Expert is still as sensitive or fragile as the other earlier SVIs, where people can over-tighten them? Oops..sorrry.. Didn't mean to drag it off-topic..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
snowman Posted July 17, 2005 Report Share Posted July 17, 2005 Wege, Did you read my review of the Armotech before writing your comments? Just interested, not suggesting it affect your views or anything. Cheers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mike77 Posted July 17, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2005 Does your grip safety work correctly? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well I was from home for 2 days, but I have been testing the gun extensively and the safety grip works perfect Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mike77 Posted July 17, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2005 i've heard some stuff about the slide catch breaking after use? any comments? i'll probably get a metal slide for my future hi capa, and a re-enforced recoil spring too <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The slide cath is made of metal so it won't break very easily, but I will get me A metal slide someday and some upgrade parts to get more power,etc.. greetz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mike77 Posted July 17, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2005 desert eagle looks better imo more powerful kicks harder ( ALOT ) no variations on it scares people hicrapa faster kick and cycle time and it doesnt beat the almight deagle on anything else the extended mag also looks cheap, BUT the metal lower frame i think is its only good point, oh and the high mag capacity <{POST_SNAPBACK}> 2 each its own I think But I'm very pleased with my Hi-capa and it can be upgraded so it can maybe perform the same as A desert eagle. The desert eagle can be a little clumsy I think, could be wrong.. Is the accuracy on a DE good?(just want to know) cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wege Posted July 17, 2005 Report Share Posted July 17, 2005 (edited) Wege, Did you read my review of the Armotech before writing your comments? Just interested, not suggesting it affect your views or anything. Cheers. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Actually. No.. today was the first day that haven't checked your site.. I mean.. a month and a 1/2 is a bit for even you!.... Sooo. I will toodle on over.. and have a quick perview.... I mean.. it is 1:38 here in the morning.. and I do have work on the morrow.. So... what I have written has not been influenced by you or others.. merely my own (relatively brief) observations. Ooo.. there are a few.. no M1910 though? or should I post it here instead...? Edited July 17, 2005 by Wege Quote Link to post Share on other sites
snowman Posted July 17, 2005 Report Share Posted July 17, 2005 Sorry Wege, Your 1910 review completely slipped my mind - Added it in now. Cheers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hissing_Sid Posted July 17, 2005 Report Share Posted July 17, 2005 Intriguingly, this still comes out cheaper than getting the equivalent full metal WA pistol... *Goes to flame reviews of all WA guns* <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeah, people who spend more than they need to on guns are dumbasses. Remind me again how much your Marui HiCapa and metal slide are costing? More or less than the £60 I paid for my HFC HiCapa? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sledge Posted July 17, 2005 Report Share Posted July 17, 2005 Yes, foolish me for not buying the gun that wasn't released at the time I bought the Hi Capa. What was I thinking? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hissing_Sid Posted July 17, 2005 Report Share Posted July 17, 2005 Yes, foolish me for not buying the gun that wasn't released at the time I bought the Hi Capa. What was I thinking? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Probably the same as anybody who built a full-metal WA 2011 before the HiCapa was released. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sledge Posted July 17, 2005 Report Share Posted July 17, 2005 Nah, anyone who bought the WA was thinking "How come this gun cost me a kidney, and the hammer still bounces backwards and forwards for about ten seconds after pulling the trigger?" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wege Posted July 17, 2005 Report Share Posted July 17, 2005 Ahhh Ok.. I see what you mean Snowman. A theory for you as to the gas usage and cool-down differences. Perhaps the added weight in the magazine assists (god knows how) with the lack of cool-down? I didn't notice until i saw the close up, but the hop-up units are not the same. There appear to be more pieces in the Clone (heyyyy with all of these copies of the TM 5.1, they could be an Attack of Clones *sigh*) http://www.wege.orcon.net.nz/Airsoft/Revie...1%20review.html have a read of this, as this is what I finished back at the start of July, and what I had found-noticed from a skirmishing perspective. Similar issues some different comments. Ah well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lax Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Hi folks ! Grats for reviews I just bought a 5.1, and happily it's for a full tuneup setup, I won't let it ugly stock. For me everything is inside, because all I can see out is iiieeew. Some details like heavy mag and very light gun was disturbing too. But I wanted the price and the accuracy/range ! (Without talking about easy aftermarkets parts) I toyed taking pics of it near my handcannon "Jackal 6 inchnicetomeetyou", currently in filing works. It's just for curious wanting to see differences between the TM hicapa 5.1 and a WA SCW Expert 6" (sorry for the inch and the metal slide I don't own a shop ^^) Side view : Looks the same, except the weak TM hammer and the cocked beavertail that wants to touch the sky. Back view : ZOMG what's with the scale ? Feel relieved, there is only 5mm in height difference... Mainly due to the slide rail shape that is really lower on the TM. We see the different choice of sights (bomar/novak). Top view : Looks alike, except sights and slide's sides number (5 for the WA, 7 for the TM, that makes it look like an allen key from the front XD) Under view : The same Frame : The TM seems simplier, but as the WA has the valve stopping mecanism and not the TM... That's maybe why the TM doesn't have THAT kick Slide : No really twin point. I like the hicapa hopup system, because I killed the WA hopup screw quite quickly, I don't mind opening 3 times the slide for setup. Conclusion : If I were to chose, there would be no hesitation, but as I wanted a standard and an open pistol, I take the best of the two ! XD I'm pretty sure the modded 5.1 will kick gas erm *albatross* ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Utty Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 Damn, this is one old-skool thread that got dug up. Hilarious too: Steady on. The HiCapa was only a legend until the 226 came out. That then took up the role of "Best gunz0rz EVAR". Seriously, I reckon if the HiCapa or 226 were released by KSC or Maruzen they'd just be "okay" or maybe "good". It's just that nobody expects much from Marui and when they release something that is above average everybody freaks out over it. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that if the 226 had been released by Maruzen or KSC it probably would have been ignored by almost everybody. Haha, the voice of reason. So ludicrous that I also replied to it back in the old days: WTF Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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