Guges Mk3 Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 (edited) Got two Star UMP's Finish is rough...not very smooth and inconsistent in texture on the body. Seem on the top of the AEG too. Batteries dont' fit...the didn't make a wire channel for "standard" stick batteries. Custom AA "stick" batteries are required. And they based this stick off the old KR1700AUL...ish! Stocks folds and just catches on the plastic hook... All though the body is made of real sturdy stuff...its typical "Star" quality. Will round off in time..them stock won't fold anymore. Hop up works great! .25's climbing up after 15 meters, had to dial it down...very good accuracy...and the AEG doesn't sound labored when used. AEG hits ~244fps with .25's, which is roughly ~290fps with .20's. All TM internal me-thinks...more to come. Edited August 17, 2005 by Guges Mk3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crandall Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 I had high hopes for this gun, sounds kinda bad Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jjj Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 thats too bad about the gun. whats even worse is that you bought 2 of them. that really sucks about the quality (dont forget the orange and dreameled trades too) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rob15 Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 I had high hopes for this gun, sounds kinda bad <{POST_SNAPBACK}> same, well i don't think i'll get one unless i hear any better reviews shame about the batterys too Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLite Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 Alas, it seems it has to be the G&G UMP then... but with G&G's track record on internals, I think I'll replace the gearbox with a CA version 3. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guges Mk3 Posted August 18, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 Who said anything about the trades...they are just fine not dremeled and they are completely intact. And you get the sturdy case too. None of you expected this to be a "high" quality gun did you? I sure didn't...only two manufacturer's make HQ AEG's IMHO... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rob15 Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 None of you expected this to be a "high" quality gun did you? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> not really, but i would have expected it to take standard stick type batterys I sure didn't...only two manufacturer's make HQ AEG's IMHO... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> which 2 would they be Quote Link to post Share on other sites
david3558 Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 If you've EVER held the real UMP, which I doubt, you will notice that the texture is supposed to be like that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guges Mk3 Posted August 19, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 (edited) If you've EVER held the real UMP, which I doubt, you will notice that the texture is supposed to be like that. I have "Held" a "Real" UMP .45 and "Shot" the "Real" UMP.45 in single and two round burst mode. And the real UMP .45's I have "Held" and "Used" have a smoother "even" texture on the body. YMMV... Edited August 19, 2005 by Guges Mk3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beta Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 Kinda bothersome about the batteries... regular stick types are bad enough. What about the build of the gun? Solid? Could you use it to hammer a nail into a 2x4? How sturdy is the case? Could you use it to hammer a nail into a 2x4? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rob15 Posted August 20, 2005 Report Share Posted August 20, 2005 I have "Held" a "Real" UMP .45 and "Shot" the "Real" UMP.45 in single and two round burst mode. And the real UMP .45's I have "Held" and "Used" have a smoother "even" texture on the body. YMMV... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> WTF, why have you quoted someone else but puts my name in it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guges Mk3 Posted August 20, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2005 Kinda bothersome about the batteries... regular stick types are bad enough. What about the build of the gun? Solid? Could you use it to hammer a nail into a 2x4? How sturdy is the case? Could you use it to hammer a nail into a 2x4? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Build is solid...internals are TM I believe...looks like TM...shoots like TM...has broken yet...so maybe TM Well being a plastic body...you will ding it up a bit... But its very rigid...it compares to say an ICS CAR97 in "solidness". And the case is as rigid as the AEG. I could jump up and down on it and it would bounce right back into shape....like an old Samsonite. Rob15, Misquote...misedit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jjj Posted August 20, 2005 Report Share Posted August 20, 2005 Guges do you think if would be possible for you to make a vid of your new toy? you can expect a +1 from me if you do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rob15 Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 Build is solid...internals are TM I believe...looks like TM...shoots like TM...has broken yet...so maybe TM <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Good good, getting more tempted by one now Rob15, Misquote...misedit. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Oh, ok Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raptor3388 Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 Wow, you look disappointed by your UMP45, the only things that disappointed me were the molding traces. I made a review on the France Airsoft website, theres a lot of pictures : http://www.france-airsoft.com/forum/index....showtopic=32933 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jjj Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 thanks for the review. now if only i paied more attention in french class.....any chance of a english review? and a quick question, how come sooo many of the pics on that site dont work? just wondering if you knew. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raptor3388 Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 Mmh, maybe I'll translate it if I have time. Where does the pics don't work ? In the "Galerie" or in the forum ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shao14 Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 Price? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jjj Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 no the gallery works just fine its the fourm that has alot of pics that dont work. Maybe its just me tho... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
visionviper Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 (edited) Translation of french review Edited August 23, 2005 by visionviper Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jjj Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 thanks but it doesn't read very smothly. thanks anyways tho. shame about the no hotlinking thing tho Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guges Mk3 Posted August 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 Trades are intact and better then the G&G trades...if that is important to you. What kind of video do you want? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jjj Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 just as long as its kool and quality is good of course. either way ill give you a +1 for doing so Quote Link to post Share on other sites
matt bond Posted August 26, 2005 Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 (edited) I've had my Star UMP since the previous release, back when they were just kits, i agree that the finish is a bit marble texture like in places, but then so is my real steel G36K foregrip. The G&G UMG has quite bad mold lines in places also. I have not had any problems with the fibre plastic that Star have used. They are very rigid and while mine has seen some action it still has no creaking etc. as of yet. After folding (locking open and closed) the stock about 60+ times at least by now, the plastic has not experienced any major wearing down. The catch at the rear in mine, is full metal anyway, both on the actual button and the "hole" parts it lock into, and the small nub that holds in when folded (above the ejection port) has no real wear, yet... Batteries can be a pain, I have found problems fitting a standard stick battery also, but as i got two Star batteries with it already, it did not prove a problem for me. Star have just released a specific UMP battery and this one will also fit no problem http://www.starairsoft.com/S_B_2000_84_B.htm (the one i use) It's a shame the Star doesn't come with the side rails though, unlike the UMG, when the kit was released before it had all rails included. I guess that both the Star UMP and G&G UMG have up and down sides, the UMG seems to fit batteries better, and has the working cocking action, the Star has fake bullet mags, better (not accuarte, but better) trademarks. Both have a specific silencer now. Edited August 26, 2005 by matt bond Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LeMongelo Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 Like Matt said, I don't think stock catch is going to be a problem. I havn't counted how many times I've locked it back and forth, but it looks to be fine. I agree that the battery is a problem. Here is the battery I used and fit without any issues: http://www.wgcshop.com/pcart/shopper.php?i....4V%20Batteries They also have the same in 9.6V which I havn't used, but I'm sure it will fit: http://www.wgcshop.com/pcart/shopper.php?i....6V%20Batteries The other thing I did was extended the wire a bit using mini Kyosho/Tamiya connectors...I personally thought it was bit too short to connect and slide in. The seams don't bother me too much...maybe my standards aren't as high as some folks. Other than that, I personally think it's fine considering the cost. It fired fine right out the box without problems. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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