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Was one ever made with an actual TM spas 12 underneath?

Or did I imagine it?  :blink:

The project notes that Arnie has in the projects section of this site uses a SPAS-12 as the launcher component, but I don't know whether any of the pre-made kits or rifles use a SPAS-12 for parts.

 

At some point I will be buying a SPAS-12 so I'll be able to compare :)

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It's not very easy to aim at small targets, the "ironsights" in the carry handle aren't very accurate so you gotta shoot it from the hip ;)

 

 

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HICKS

                  If it comes to that, I'll do us

                  both.  Let's see that it doesn't

                  Here, I'd like to introduce you to

                  a close personal friend of mine.

 

        He picks up his pulse-rifle and with the casually precise

        movements of long practice he snaps open the bolt, drops

        out the magazine and hands it to her.

 

                                  HICKS

                  M-41A 10mm pulse-rifle, over and

                  under with a 30mm pump-action

                  grenade launcher.

 

        Ripley hefts the weapon.  It is heavy and awkward.  But

        there is an irrational promise of security in its lethal

        cold steel lines, to at least the sense that she will

        be in some greater measure the master of her own fate.

        She raises it clumsily.

 

                                  RIPLEY

                  What do I do?

 

        Ripley has the stock of the M-41A snugged up to her cheek

        and is awkwardly trying to keep up with Hicks'

        instructions.  The Corporal is standing close behind her,

        positioning her arms.  It's intimate but that's the

        last thing on their minds.

 

                                  HICKS

                  Just pull it in real right.  It

                  will kick some.  When the counter

                  here heads zero, hit this...

 

        He thumbs a button and the magazine drops out, clattering

        on the floor.

 

                                  HICKS

                  Just let it drop right out.  Get

                  the other one in quick.  Just

                  slap it in hard, it likes abuse.

                  Now, pull the bolt.

 

        CLACK.

 

                                  HICKS

                  You're ready again.

 

        Ripley repeats the action, not very smoothly.  Her hands

        are trembling.  She indicates a stout TUBE underneath

        the slender pulse-rifle barrel.

 

                                  RIPLEY

                  What's this?

 

                                  HICKS

                  Well, that's the grenade launcher

                  ...you probably don't want to

                  mess with that.

 

                                  RIPLEY

                  Look, you started this.  Now show

                  me everything.  I can handle myself.

 

                                  HICKS

                  Yeah.  I've noticed.

 

I know what I am watching tonight!

 

 

LETS ROCK!

 

MARINES! WE ARE L-E-A-V-I-N-G!

 

:gun:

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It's not very easy to aim at small targets, the "ironsights" in the carry handle aren't very accurate so you gotta shoot it from the hip ;)

Indeed.

 

I've seen people mount an RDS on the top of the carry-handle but it looks dreadful IMO.

 

Are there any pukka sights inside that top groove or do you just aim through the groove?

 

Might be worth fitting a basic post-and-notch setup in there?

 

Is that in the M41A manual you told me about earlier? I haven't actually read through most of the technical manual - it took me so long to get hold of a copy I virtually put it straight in shrink wrapping and put it in my box of Alien-related stuff ;)

Yep.

 

Actually, I think I have a copy of the USCM Tech manual saved as a PDF somewhere. 50mb though.

Was one ever made with an actual TM spas 12 underneath?

 

Or did I imagine it?   :blink:

*deep breath*

 

Okay, first thing is that it's NOT a SPAS 12 shotgun built into the M41a. It's a SPAS12 cage REVERSED (look at it closely ;)) and with a shortened SPAS grip. The action is actually from a Remington wingmaster shotgun.

 

Popular opinion is that you can't fit an airsoft shotgun in there very easily.

 

The real-steel SPAS cage is metal (duh!) and is quite thin. The plastic cage on a Marui gun is a lot thicker.

So thick, in fact, that you can't get something like a Maruzen 870 internal mechanism into it.

I understand that people have completed the job by hacking away at the shotgun receiver until there was little enough of it that it would actually fit into the Marui SPAS cage.

 

Of course, once you've done that there's now nowhere to put the batteries.

 

People were looking into using LiPo batteries built into the carry-handle to power the gun. Course, if you do that then the gun is sidelined once the battery goes flat. I reckon a battery sling would be the way forward if you got the shotgun to work.

 

Also, none of these ideas make use of the pukka M41a kit. They all require you to build the launcher/shotgun part from scratch.

 

The page about the M41a on Arnies site is based on info by a guy called Phil Higgins. He's kinda famous for his LaserTag gear. He is a bit of a strange fish. The stuff he produces tends to look a bit dodgy and yet he is a stickler for detail in the work of others.

The fact that he's knocked up drawings showing an M41a with a full-sized SPAS cage and grip demonstrates that pretty well.

Oh *fruitcage* yeah I've got to watch aliens again ^_^

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Want me to get you you're slippers corpral?

Yes please!

Looking to my glass eye!

Apone says "Look into my eye."

He's pulling his lower eyelid down with his middle finger.

He's flipping Hudson the bird. ;)

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Is this custom gun made with the conversion kit that ASC makes?

I doubt that ASC "makes" the conversion kit. I don't think they actually make much of anything at all.

 

Armour (I think) is the company which makes the kit which is most often sold.

 

You buy the kit and then bung it on a stock Marui Thompson and add a 190 round short mag as well.

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I've seen people mount an RDS on the top of the carry-handle but it looks dreadful IMO.
Yeah, I can imagine. There's no point in putting any extra sights or anything on there IMO, it looks great as it is.

Are there any pukka sights inside that top groove or do you just aim through the groove?
I haven't looked too closely, but as far as I can tell it's just "aim through the groove and hope for the best" ;)

 

God knows how Hudson managed to take out so many Aliens in that last stand without aiming the damn thing. Given the speed that they move at it's a big surprise indeed.

Actually, I think I have a copy of the USCM Tech manual saved as a PDF somewhere. 50mb though.
Gotta have the real thing, a PDF just won't do ;)

 

Apone says "Look into my eye."

He's pulling his lower eyelid down with his middle finger.

He's flipping Hudson the bird. ;)

Hah! In all the years I've been an Aliens fan, I've never noticed that. I figured that there was just something to do with the "seriousness" of his eyes that shot Hudson down.

 

Ya learn something new every day!

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Whoever asked about the SPAS, they used a Remington m870 which was cut down to fit inside the SPAS cage.

There is one kit i've seen that uses a 9v bat to power the LED display, saying that it might have been a static model.

 

But thats still a nice as hell piece.

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Actually, I think I have a copy of the USCM Tech manual saved as a PDF somewhere. 50mb though.

 

You've got broadband now haven't you Sid? I've sent JPEG's bigger than that :D (that's 'dr.newstead@gmail.com'. Cheers :whistling: )

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Oh *fruitcage* yeah I've got to watch aliens again ^_^

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Want me to get you you're slippers corpral?

Yes please!

Looking to my glass eye!

 

Actually Hudson's a PFC... Comtech to be exact...

 

It goes...

 

"Want me to get your slippers for you?"

"Gee would you sir, I'd like that."

"Look at my eye..."

 

I've got the Aliens Novelization if anyone wants to challenge...

Got most of that movie memorized... without it.

 

And don't forget your favorite kawasaki motorcycle for the Smartgun...

 

VP 70- "A popular sidearm in service with the USCM"

 

Otherweapons of interest:

M4A3 Pistol= 9mm 1911

M41AE2= Squad automatic M41a, sans grenade launcher and with 300 round "L feed magazine," 8 cm longer barrel that's removeable and extended barrel shroud for a Bipod...

M42A Sniper rifle (Basically a Walther Bullpup sniper)

 

:D. All per my Aliens knowledge :D.

Any other questions :D.

 

Alex "Col Sanders"

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There is one kit i've seen that uses a 9v bat to power the LED display, saying that it might have been a static model.

This one uses a 9v battery inside the magwell to power the LED counter.

 

"Want me to get your slippers for you?"

"Gee would you sir, I'd like that."

"Look at my eye..."

If you're gonna quote, at least quote properly ;)

 

HUDSON

"Oh man, this floor is freezing!"

 

APONE

"What do you want me to do, fetch your slippers for you?"

 

HUDSON

"Gee, would you sir? I'd like that."

 

APONE

"Look into my eye..."

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Whoever asked about the SPAS, they used a Remington m870 which was cut down to fit inside the SPAS cage.

Did you figure that out for yourself or just read it out of my post, about 3 above yours? :rolleyes:

You've got broadband now haven't you Sid? I've sent JPEG's bigger than that :D (that's 'dr.newstead@gmail.com'. Cheers  :whistling: )

You've got mail. ;)

 

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Then again, maybe not. :(

 

I get about 1/4 of the way through sending it and I get a "Connection to server reset due to lack of activity" message.

 

Anybody know how to fix this or is it just that I have a 10mb or 15mb restriction on file size?

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Ripley scans the group as they shuffle past her to a

        bank of lockers.  Though not supermen they are lean and

        hardened...tough, capable, jaded.  They combine the

        specialized techno-combat training of the twenty-first

        century fighting man with those qualities universal to

        "grunts" through the ages.  SERGEANT APONE moves down the

        row of freezers.

 

                                  HUDSON

                    This floor's freezing.

 

                                  APONE

                    Christ.  I never saw such a

                    buncha old women.  You want me

                    to fetch your slippers, Hudson?

 

                                  HUDSON

                    Would you, Sir?

 

        Ripley steps back as the troopers shuffle past nodding

        cursory hellos.  She feels isolated by the camaraderie

        of this tightknit group.

 

Shooting script. The rest is add libbed by the actor

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You need a Gmail account, stat. 3GB's and counting. PM your e-mail for an invite.

 

Meanwhile, in a topic somewhere near the planet LV-426...

I already have (had) a gmail account. However, I haen't used it for a while so maybe they cancel them after a while?

 

Anyway, send the invite to hissing#.sid#@tiscali.co.uk but remove the # symbols.

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