kronic Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 Guarder one looks the best. 9had to add that... or they won't let my waste my money on more stuff) Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpbot Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 What happened to the folding stock that was in the prototype? I am right that the new stock is a solid stock, right? Oh well, I had a lot of hope for this one, too bad. Maybe someone will make upgrades for the dodgey bits. Link to post Share on other sites
kronic Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 EH? Looks like the same stock as the prototype. Both solidcrap stocks. Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpbot Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 My Bad, I guess I confused an old Guarder pic with this POS. EH? Looks like the same stock as the prototype. Both solidcrap stocks. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Link to post Share on other sites
Tripod Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 Photobucket was playing up... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/eddy_bee/LAME.jpg There... and it's nasty! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I say that's fake. Oh well, I dont even want an AK74. I'm making a freakin AK47M!!! EDIT: Wow, it really does look like ######. http://www.icsbb.com/news/photo/AK74M%BA%F...B%FE%A8%A93.jpg Still am going to buy a Gaurder before a CA or ICS. Link to post Share on other sites
Catchv22 Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 It does look bad... Until I realized it too has a two piece gearbox. Honestly, stocks and foregrips can be replaced so I don't really see what's so bad about it. I'd prefer a sidefolder and wood grips anyway. Link to post Share on other sites
kronic Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 Have fun replacing the stock.... And the pistol grip :/. Tough job. Still i don't need to moan i've got my Guarder one... and i can fit a real AK103 folding stock on it Link to post Share on other sites
Catchv22 Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 I believe in the US we have side folding stocks, foregrips and Guarder Pistol Grips available to us. Link to post Share on other sites
kronic Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 No i mean have fun fitting them. Foregrips are quite easy, stock is damned hard. Where can you get Guarder 74 grips? They stopped selling them separatly.... if they haven't then there are gunna be alot of happy people. Link to post Share on other sites
Soloman Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 i actally like the looks of it... Anyone know if this is gonna take standard ak mags? Link to post Share on other sites
Crazy_Harry Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 should imagine so. I'm pretty happy to see its got the ICS two-part gearbox- always hated taking apart the usual ones, especially CAs v2 gearbox, accursed thing Link to post Share on other sites
King Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 I don't see what the problem with it is... ICS AK74 Russian AK74 Link to post Share on other sites
Catchv22 Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 No i mean have fun fitting them. Foregrips are quite easy, stock is damned hard. Where can you get Guarder 74 grips? They stopped selling them separatly.... if they haven't then there are gunna be alot of happy people. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> At about less than half the price, I think I would. Link to post Share on other sites
Biohazzard56 Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 Me wants, its looking great. I just hope the ICS Mag well will be compatable with other AK style mags. Im turning out to be quite the ICS Poster Child Link to post Share on other sites
Magsz Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 Woah, i never realized how awful that stock looked compared to the real one lol. Other then the stock i think the rifle looks fantastic. Link to post Share on other sites
Tripod Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 The stock is definatly really fugly. No way I'm buying one. Link to post Share on other sites
kronic Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 The barrel is nasty too. So is the grip. Catch22 whats about half the price? Go buy CA... ICS is nasty! Link to post Share on other sites
Soloman Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 mmm the stock is a bit ugly, but overall i quite like it Link to post Share on other sites
nmcabecadas Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 The stock is correctly reproduced, but I guess that soon a wooden furniture or a AK-74 conversion kit become available. This may include the older bakelite mags because the Star version is really bad. Link to post Share on other sites
Robot 2000 Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 I don't see what the problem with it is... ICS AK74 Russian AK74 <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I really can't see what everyone's problem is with this gun. It looks almost exactly like the real one! And the stock isn't that bad! well, I'm gonna buy one . . . you guys all go spend £400 on a guarder kit Link to post Share on other sites
kronic Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 I will. And i'll have a far better gun. And i'll use it to club all the ICS ones... then take over the world. Link to post Share on other sites
Catchv22 Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 No doubt the Guarder is better, but I don't really care to spend almost twice as much for the details. I think this is grand, if even just for the two piece gearbox design. Link to post Share on other sites
King Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 And i'll have a far better gun. No, you'll have a far more expensive gun that might look slightly better . The ICS is the one with the two piece gear box. Admittedly, the stock does look off. So much so that I wonder whether it was even modeled off the AK74 stock pictured there. There may be a newer/alternate version of the AK74 stock that it was modeled off of. And what exactly is wrong with the barrel? They look identical to me... Link to post Share on other sites
Robot 2000 Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 And i'll have a far better gun. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> no you won't. In terms of performance,you're unlikely to outdo us. You'll have your nice fiddly little details, which is all well and good, but I'll have a nice shiny AK which cost about half as much. Link to post Share on other sites
kronic Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 No one knows if the ICS box is better... anwyho i could easily buy ICS internals (as i need a new set for my AKM). Besides the CA is so much nicer than the ICS one. Plus i don't really need a split gear box, more stuff to go wrong if you ask me. You pay for what you get, i wanted the best, i paid the most.... maybe stupid but, hey i' am stupid. Ignore me i'm a realism Nazi (about some things) Plus i wanted a folding stock. Link to post Share on other sites
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