buzzsaw Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 (edited) Phew. I think this is getting as finished as it will ever get. I'm fairly happy with the way it's all worked out. Whether I will manage the pack in skirmishes, however, is another matter. Once I manage to buy or borrow an SA80 I will do a proper photoshoot on a decent location...but for now, here's how it's looking. 2nd BN 'The Poachers', Royal Anglian Regiment Basra, Iraq - 2008 KITLIST: Mk6 Combat Helmet - Issue DDPM Helmet Cover (Elastic Removed) ESS V-12 Advancer Goggles Issue DDPM Tropical Shirt Issue DDPM Tropical Trousers Issue DDPM Leather Gloves Osprey Combat Body Armour, DDPM - Replica Armour Plates CQC Load Carrying Tactical Vest, DDPM 1no. Helmet Cover Pouch (Radio/Utility Pouch), DDPM 1no. Knife/Torch Pouch, DDPM 3no. Double/Triple 5.56mm Pouches, DDPM 2no. Frag Grenade Pouch, DDPM 1no. Small Utility Pouch, DDPM 1no. Medical Pouch, DDPM Warrior Assault Systems Assault Pack, Tan - TAG Hydration Bladder & Tube - IR Union Jack - Whip Radio Antenna Motorola Talkabout T5522 Bowman PRR Headset Replica Petzl Zipka Plus Mini Maglite Torch IR & Visible Cylumes Marker Pens Meindl Desert Fox Boots So yeah, there we go. I hope you guys like it and hopefully it's a decent representation. Constructive critism is still appreciated (depending on how much money the 'critism' involves ). Edited August 10, 2008 by buzzsaw Link to post Share on other sites
Lerch Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 I came... Very nice Link to post Share on other sites
kie Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 (edited) Very nice loadout Buzzsaw, very accurate and detailed, also nice touch with the Desert Fox's. Hear are my Classic British SAS inspired Loadouts i recently completed, Quite a leap back from all this fancy new kit. The basis of my next loadout based on UKSF during the the first Gulf war. Need some old issue webbing and DDPM's. Or possibly from the early years of the Iraq war? k Edited August 10, 2008 by kie Link to post Share on other sites
darkchild130 Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 Buzzsaw: good effort mate, just a few things that stand out as wrong to me. Ditch the rig, no self respecting grunt would wear that issued piece of ######. You best off mounting some good pouches to the osprey or buying an off the shelf lbe system (warrior assault systems are very popular among infantrymen). Put some elastic or tape round the base of your helmet to protect the cover. Cut at least the trigger finger of your gloves if you're doing a grunt impression. get some kneepads. Put your cyalumes in a pouch, only REMFS put them in their molle loops. They break really fast that way. I would personally wear a UBACS but normal shirts are still very common so there's nothing wrong with that. In the absence of a mocking bird (a small IR light that is attached to your helmet) attach an IR cyalume to the back of your helmet (not essential but it will make the impression "pop") finally, try to get some small IR squares for the sleeves of your shirts, these are all the rage right now to stop Americans from killing us. Darkchild Link to post Share on other sites
buzzsaw Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 Buzzsaw: good effort mate, just a few things that stand out as wrong to me. Ditch the rig, no self respecting grunt would wear that issued piece of ######. You best off mounting some good pouches to the osprey or buying an off the shelf lbe system (warrior assault systems are very popular among infantrymen). Put some elastic or tape round the base of your helmet to protect the cover. Cut at least the trigger finger of your gloves if you're doing a grunt impression. get some kneepads. Put your cyalumes in a pouch, only REMFS put them in their molle loops. They break really fast that way. I would personally wear a UBACS but normal shirts are still very common so there's nothing wrong with that. In the absence of a mocking bird (a small IR light that is attached to your helmet) attach an IR cyalume to the back of your helmet (not essential but it will make the impression "pop") finally, try to get some small IR squares for the sleeves of your shirts, these are all the rage right now to stop Americans from killing us. Darkchild Thanks for the C&C! -For some reason, I absolutely love the LCTV. Some guys I talk to hate it, and some say they get on great with it...I tried mounting everything straight onto the Osprey and found it ridiculously useless. I guess it's just a matter of opinion here, but obviously I have never had to put it through a combat situation. I will check out some of the Warrior stuff though. -I am useless for forgetting the NBC band/tape on the helmet. Does anyone know where I can just get a cheap NBC boot or something? I've tried ebay and whatever... -Will do the gloves. -Even more useless for TOTALLY forgetting about kneepads. Will be bought. -Dang, Cylumes in molle loops is all the rage. But, ok. -Will tape (I assume?) an IR Cylume onto the helmet, and I will sew a couple of squares onto my shirt for IR squres now. Thanks again for the help! Link to post Share on other sites
doc_newstead Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 (edited) -Will tape (I assume?) an IR Cylume onto the helmet Just pop it through the loops. This is really good, kind of thing I'd have loved to aim for back when I collected kit I am also, taking tips off darkchild, to be the allyest mofo in the teabar As for an NBC boot... pop me a PM mate. Edited August 10, 2008 by doc_newstead Link to post Share on other sites
darkchild130 Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 Just pop it through the loops. This is really good, kind of thing I'd have loved to aim for back when I collected kit I am also, taking tips off darkchild, to be the allyest mofo in the teabar As for an NBC boot... pop me a PM mate. Doc, if you look at his pics he has no loops on his lid. I like giving kit advice for Brit loadouts. A lot of official pictures are of posing REMFS and i dont want potential imitators to get the wrong idea. To look like a wardog you have to do a few subtle things that are different from Johnny shelf stacker that spends his tour strutting round Kandahar airfield or something. if ANYONE wants help on doing a modern DPM loadout im keen to help out, just ask. Darkchild Link to post Share on other sites
doc_newstead Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 Doc, if you look at his pics he has no loops on his lid. My bad. Link to post Share on other sites
Delta_1 Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 Are you talking about the pics of genuine S'06 trials I posted or the Ebaybanned ACU-cut combats? If you're talking about the S'06, it's most definately not cheap, and most definately not nasty. Unless you define the current issue stuff cheap and nasty of course. In other news, I now have my Meindl Desert Fox boots, ESS V-12 Advancers and Bowman headset. My loadout is pretty much finished on the gear front, just need an SA80. Fully kitted up pics will be taken tomorrow... Sorry i mean the CS06 look cheap an nasty, it just look s*** an thrown together with pocket all over nobody but REMFS will use the pen pockets any one els will be ripped to death an called a REMF. but thats just my view on it. Link to post Share on other sites
Fatal Posted August 11, 2008 Report Share Posted August 11, 2008 @ Buzzsaw, why do you got that backpack? I watched a couple of videos ( yea, im a expert now ) of 2nd Royal Anglian on youtube. I didn't see any of them with backpacks, not saying they don't but didn't see one. Maybe darkchild could give a little more insight, while I was in the Marines the only people who were to carry backpacks. Where the unlucky suckers who carried the *opsec* backpack and the comms backpack. Other then that, forget that extra unwanted weight. Link to post Share on other sites
buzzsaw Posted August 11, 2008 Report Share Posted August 11, 2008 Fatal: Fair comment. The only thing I would say is, that from watching a ton of other videos, most guys seem to take a pack out with them on foot-patrols, particularly in A-Stan. I know this isn't an A-Stan based loadout, but I just used a bit of imagination as there are no really recent pics of 2 Royal Anglian. Thanks for the comment though, and I may invest in a Camelbak to just clip to the back of my LCTV in future. Link to post Share on other sites
doc_newstead Posted August 11, 2008 Report Share Posted August 11, 2008 I know this is a 'search n00b' moment, but what options are available the A2? I fancy getting one, but don't want to fork out several hundred quid on an expensive paperweight! Link to post Share on other sites
kie Posted August 11, 2008 Report Share Posted August 11, 2008 (edited) I know this is a 'search n00b' moment, but what options are available the A2? I fancy getting one, but don't want to fork out several hundred quid on an expensive paperweight! Sa80a2 or M16a2? If you mean the SA80 you could get a UGL, Susat (Eotech and ACOG are also being implemented), maybe custom make a rail system so you can have a pillar grip or if you can find one, one of those side mounted torches. For the M16a2.... nothing, thats why i like it. k Edit: unless you mean what brands of Sa80A2, I know a guy with a STAR SA80, seems like a decent weapon, the hop-up could do with getting sorted though. ICS have just brought one out, not sure on its performance but if it doesn't have a split gear box and is anything like there MP5's then it should be good. Edited August 11, 2008 by kie Link to post Share on other sites
doc_newstead Posted August 11, 2008 Report Share Posted August 11, 2008 Yeah, what brands for the L85 IW. Link to post Share on other sites
Grim Posted August 11, 2008 Report Share Posted August 11, 2008 As Kie my beloved stalker pointed out STAR and ICS do A2s Not sure is the china soft R85 is and A1 or A2 and i know G&G to an SA80 so you pretty much have the choice of those. I have the STAR A2 carbine i damaged the hop up on it tho when stripping it so i need to get my mits on a replacment. But besides that its ok, just wear and tear causing bits to fall off like sling loops and foresights. Grim Link to post Share on other sites
Spacemonkey Posted August 11, 2008 Report Share Posted August 11, 2008 New Zealand Ventile DPM windproof smock. Oh yes.. luvverly bit of kit. I like the way the buttons are all covered over so they don't shine or get ripped off by ruck straps. And of course, it is ventile. Did I mention that it was ventile?? BTW someone wanted Desert DPM Goretex. Again, Jasper at http://www.strikeforcesupplies.co.uk/ has lots. Link to post Share on other sites
Grim Posted August 11, 2008 Report Share Posted August 11, 2008 I already beat ya to the desert gortex spacemonkey. Grim Link to post Share on other sites
darkchild130 Posted August 11, 2008 Report Share Posted August 11, 2008 @ Buzzsaw, why do you got that backpack? I watched a couple of videos ( yea, im a expert now ) of 2nd Royal Anglian on youtube. I didn't see any of them with backpacks, not saying they don't but didn't see one. Maybe darkchild could give a little more insight, while I was in the Marines the only people who were to carry backpacks. Where the unlucky suckers who carried the *opsec* backpack and the comms backpack. Other then that, forget that extra unwanted weight. In the British infantry everybody carries a daysack on patrol. Within it you would mainly carry extra ammo, claymores, maybe a 66mm, spare bombs for the 51mm mortar etc. As well as that you would be carrying a bit of food and spare water, night vision aids, radio batteries and whatever specialist kit was required. these days ECM is also carried frequently on patrols too, so thats 3 or 4 packs full straight away without even taking other kit into consideration. Darkchild Link to post Share on other sites
Fatal Posted August 11, 2008 Report Share Posted August 11, 2008 Well, you brits are weird! Lets get some pics up in here!!! Link to post Share on other sites
Spacemonkey Posted August 11, 2008 Report Share Posted August 11, 2008 I already beat ya to the desert gortex spacemonkey. Grim Ah, good show that man.. I find it awfully useful for salt water fly fishing. In fact, I use a lot of dessie kit for that. And an M83 vest of course.. Link to post Share on other sites
morpcat Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 Well, you brits are weird! Lets get some pics up in here!!! Checkit, 2 para patrol... All with packs: http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z86/dan...elmand_16-1.jpg Also of note are ACOG and abundance of WAS kit for both MOLLE pouches and backpacks. Link to post Share on other sites
sandstorm Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 On the L85's... 1) STAR L85's are A2's... 2) ICS is going to be A2, but so far, no one have been able to get theirs in hand yet. 3) G&G does both A1 and A2 4) Army R85 is G&G copy, and I think it's from the A1 model. STAR also has the L22 and LSW out, as well as the weird carbine that has the LSW handguard on slightly shorter rifle. ICS ihas also said they'd do the carbine and LSW front-ends, but of those there is no solid infomration yet (Conversion kits or whole guns, for example) Link to post Share on other sites
Fatal Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 Morpcat, more pics! more pics! more pics! I don't care if they have the bag or not, I just want more, more MORE!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
random guy Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 On the L85's... 1) STAR L85's are A2's... 2) ICS is going to be A2, but so far, no one have been able to get theirs in hand yet. 3) G&G does both A1 and A2 4) Army R85 is G&G copy, and I think it's from the A1 model. STAR also has the L22 and LSW out, as well as the weird carbine that has the LSW handguard on slightly shorter rifle. ICS ihas also said they'd do the carbine and LSW front-ends, but of those there is no solid infomration yet (Conversion kits or whole guns, for example) Yeah the Army R85 is the A1 model they were supposedley doing an A2 but nothing has materialised Link to post Share on other sites
Grim Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 Ah, good show that man.. I find it awfully useful for salt water fly fishing. In fact, I use a lot of dessie kit for that. And an M83 vest of course.. Do you use hand grenades as well lol. I found the link for the jacket but could not find any DDPM gortex trousers. And im sure theres plenty of us on here who wouldnt mind a set of deser DPMs both jacket and trousers. Grim Link to post Share on other sites
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