Urban Duck Posted October 9, 2005 Report Share Posted October 9, 2005 I live in Colorado, and to start off, airsoft here is overrun with political madness. It is discouraging new players from joining and is upsetting many people here. It basically is run by one guy, some like him, some don't. Anyways, he has proposing a ban on all Hi-Cap mags and limiting all guns to standard magazines and the STAR 30 round mags. He claims it will ad to the realism of the game, (i agree with him that i would) but there are some players here who cannot afford to buy all these mags and get by with one hi-cap. What do you people think of his proposition? Link to post Share on other sites
Grimesy88 Posted October 9, 2005 Report Share Posted October 9, 2005 Does this one man actually have any power or is it all just in his head? He sounds a bit of a muppet to be honest. You should get people together to tell him hes an idiot and obviously set out why lo-caps only is a negative way to go. Most new guns now come with hi-caps and its too expensive as you said to have lo-caps only. Obviously if its a mil-sim game then obviously it makes sense, but for a normal skirmish it seems daft to be so strict and makes it harder got new players. Link to post Share on other sites
expvideo Posted October 9, 2005 Report Share Posted October 9, 2005 I agree with it whole heartedly. I think using hicaps is cheating. 130rd mid-caps are a good cutoff. Or only allowing one hicap. Suggest to him to limit the ammount of ammunition a player can carry. 300 rds. Thats 1 hicap, 10 star mags, about 6 standard mags, or 3 mid-caps. BTW, Grimsey, I'd hardly call $55 for a box of 10 mags expensive. Link to post Share on other sites
Urban Duck Posted October 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2005 There are a couple of teams that support him. however, these teams only consist of about 8 people. The team im on consists of well over 60 people right now, and hopefully with the help of the US airsoft corps, we are going to get rid of all the political stuff and bring back the actual sport. This guy claims to be helping the sport, creating all of these rules, like a minimum number of games a player has to play in before they can join a team. He made this rule after the fact that our team has brought in new players to the sport Link to post Share on other sites
doc_newstead Posted October 9, 2005 Report Share Posted October 9, 2005 This guy sounds like a prat. Is he a local councillor? He sounds like one of them as well. And is this a prank post? Because it certainly smells like one. Link to post Share on other sites
expvideo Posted October 9, 2005 Report Share Posted October 9, 2005 I am glad he is making strict rules. That's what keeps airsoft separate from paintball. Aaron Link to post Share on other sites
Urban Duck Posted October 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2005 nope, sure isnt, heres a link to the COASG and the actual thread about baning the hi-caps COASG hi-cap ban Link to post Share on other sites
Grimesy88 Posted October 9, 2005 Report Share Posted October 9, 2005 BTW, Grimsey, I'd hardly call $55 for a box of 10 mags expensive. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I guess not, though maybe for younger players it might be a bit expensive on top of getting the gun and stuff. Though how durable are they exactly? Could they last more than one skirmish? I mean im in the process of getting lo-caps atm for my CA36 but if this happened where I live then I wouldnt of been allowed to play at my local skirmish site because all I had was the hi-cap which came with my gun. Just think its a little harsh on new players really. Maybe could run special days for new players and be less strict or something? Link to post Share on other sites
expvideo Posted October 9, 2005 Report Share Posted October 9, 2005 Yes, star mags are durable. And I think the purpose for the rule isn't the newbs with 1 hicap and nothing more. It's for the guys with an AK and 5 hicaps (600rnds a piece) that just hold down the trigger. Aaron Link to post Share on other sites
FPBBrandon Posted October 9, 2005 Report Share Posted October 9, 2005 and how about us P90 users? G3s? no stars for either. Link to post Share on other sites
Grimesy88 Posted October 9, 2005 Report Share Posted October 9, 2005 Well thats fair enough, as said im not a fan of hi-caps (the winding annoys me ). Though i do think it should be up to the organisers on the day rather than a wide spread ban. Link to post Share on other sites
expvideo Posted October 9, 2005 Report Share Posted October 9, 2005 FPBBrandon, Well there's no cheap mags for rare guns in real life either, so enjoy the realism Link to post Share on other sites
doc_newstead Posted October 9, 2005 Report Share Posted October 9, 2005 nope, sure isnt, heres a link to the COASG and the actual thread about baning the hi-caps COASG hi-cap ban <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Fair enough. Then this guy is a prat. Hi-caps aren't to do with realism, they are to do with practicality. I've tried using lo-caps and mid-caps. I own lo-caps and mid-caps. And I end up using a hi-cap instead. Just 1 or 2. If this toolbar thinks he can legislate a sport into fairness, then he's a bigger ###### than he looks. What can he outlaw next? Suppressors? Speed loaders? Internal upgrades? Comfortable shoes? I can't even be bothered to prattle out a cogent rant about this. I can only wonder how many sticks a human being can have rammed up their sphincter at anyone time, and then make immature accusations about breast-feeding during developmental childhood, or the lack of. I think if you're going to pick holes in the realism of airsoft, you should probably start with the fact that it's not war, you aren't engaged in fatal combat, and that you fire 6mm BB's at eachother. Hi-caps are fairly low down on the 'List O' Realism' in that regard. Link to post Share on other sites
hippiehater44 Posted October 9, 2005 Report Share Posted October 9, 2005 kcairsoft is talking about banning hicaps. i find it stupid that they would do that i mean nothings wrong with it there just military and realism buffs if they do ban them get midcaps Link to post Share on other sites
Urban Duck Posted October 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2005 Fair enough. Then this guy is a prat. Hi-caps aren't to do with realism, they are to do with practicality. I've tried using lo-caps and mid-caps. I own lo-caps and mid-caps. And I end up using a hi-cap instead. Just 1 or 2. If this toolbar thinks he can legislate a sport into fairness, then he's a bigger ###### than he looks. What can he outlaw next? Suppressors? Speed loaders? Internal upgrades? Comfortable shoes? I can't even be bothered to prattle out a cogent rant about this. I can only wonder how many sticks one human being can have rammed up their sphincter at anyone time, and then make immature accusations about breast-feeding developmental childhood, or lack of. I think if you're going to pick holes in the realism of airsoft, you should probably start with the fact that it's not war, you aren't engaged in fatal combat, and that you fire 6mm BB's at eachother. Hi-caps are fairly low down on the 'List O' Realism' in that regard. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You just said what alot of people feel like here Link to post Share on other sites
Sledge Posted October 9, 2005 Report Share Posted October 9, 2005 If I ever play in Colorado, I will use hi caps out of the goddamned principle. The second some numb nuts starts dictating, the fun tends to disappear out of a thing. Link to post Share on other sites
Urban Duck Posted October 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2005 exactly, there have been many people who have had interest in airsoft and just quit because of him and his BS Link to post Share on other sites
Sledge Posted October 9, 2005 Report Share Posted October 9, 2005 So, why not just ignore the twat? Link to post Share on other sites
Hissing_Sid Posted October 9, 2005 Report Share Posted October 9, 2005 Since when was airsoft about realism? Tell the guy that if he wants to hand out a box of star locaps to everybody who hands in a hicap you'll think about it. Otherwise, don't play at sites that enforce these dumb rules. Airsoft is about the majority of the people having fun for the majority of the time. Sometimes we'll spend hours setting up a game with objectives and, in play, the teams will get into a huge firefight and the objectives are forgotten. Sometimes we'll be having a CTF game and the milsimmers will have to relax for a while. Tell him to shove his ideas up his *albatross*. Link to post Share on other sites
FPBBrandon Posted October 9, 2005 Report Share Posted October 9, 2005 Wait... are you saying realsteel G3 mags arent cheap? http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ctd/product...6W178U9H8BA91A3 Try again... and Sid you embody my feelings perfectly. Link to post Share on other sites
expvideo Posted October 9, 2005 Report Share Posted October 9, 2005 I said mags for rare guns aren't cheap. In the real world, G3's aren't rare. In the airsoft world they are. Welcome to a place I like to call "the way things are". Link to post Share on other sites
hippiehater44 Posted October 9, 2005 Report Share Posted October 9, 2005 Tell the guy that if he wants to hand out a box of star locaps to everybody who hands in a hicap you'll think about it. exactly and it should be like 4 star locaps for every hjicap for the cost Link to post Share on other sites
destrukto Posted October 9, 2005 Report Share Posted October 9, 2005 well I know I won't be heading out to play airsoft in Colorado anytime soon if he's in charge... I have 2 hi-caps and 3 standards... I run through my standards first then start on the hi-caps, or if the proverbial hits the fan I switch to my hi-cap a little bit sooner... Just remember the golden rule to any endeavor... Keep It Simple Stupid (KISS), make it too complicated/expensive and nobody will want to join Link to post Share on other sites
Urban Duck Posted October 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2005 MY POINT EXACTLY!! Hes killing the sport in colorado Link to post Share on other sites
Shao14 Posted October 9, 2005 Report Share Posted October 9, 2005 How is this guy going to enforce his rules? Does he own all the airsoft fields in Colorado or something? Anyone can make up rules, and if people don't like the rules, people just won't play with the rule maker, and then the rule maker will be forced to amend his/her rules if he still want to play others. I personally thinks mid-cap is a good compromise between hi caps and low caps. I have no low cap, and only have hi caps that came with the guns. All the additional mags I buy are mid caps. I think airsoft players should be allowed to carry at least three times what a real soldier does ammo-wise, to compensate for the lack of accuracy and range of airsoft weapons unless it's CQB. I carry one hi cap, and 4 mid caps, and a side arm with me in woodland games, and I have never ran out of ammo in a single game (except those ones with endless respawning waste of ammo don't play those too often). Link to post Share on other sites
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