Star M249 Para Examined...

[Wupjak]

I did this on my gun as well. Offhand an 010 or 011 ought to work just fine.

[The Original SaXoN]

Cheers pal, just a quick thought though, that will be an imperial and not metric size?

[Wupjak]

Unsure about that, Saxon. I would however hazard a guess that it's an arbitrary system, but that's a guess. I imagine I could look smarter than I am by looking up the numbering system on Google, but I can't be bothered

 

Directly before I asked for the oring box today for another application, the guy at my hardware store counter popped out the same yellow plastic box stocked with o-rings numbered as I indicated that looked like this:

 

http://www.machinemart.co.uk/product.asp?p...14&r=2205&g=107

Edited May 8, 2006 by Wupjak

[WarMonger]

thanks for the info guys, i'll try some teflon tape.

 

when i installed the metal gearbox, my FPS is barely over 200, theres a serious leak somewhere. I am almost certain its not in the gearbox, it has to be between the nozzle and the bucking, or around the barrel and the bucking. I'm using a systema bucking, and its rather loose around the barrel.

 

When i take the gun apart, and hold the chamber against the gearbox, i can still see some of the chamfered end of the nozzle through the Feed hole, it looks like it should go in further,i dont know if this is normal or not, i never noticed it before. has anyone noticed this by chance?

[D-O-C]

hello, in PGC gearbox can fit any piston or only star piston?

and tappet plate and nozzle are v3?

[The Original SaXoN]

Wupjack your a legend, thanks for the help !

[Wupjak]

Legend? LOL, no. You're welcome though. BTW, this sentence:

 

Directly before I asked for the oring box today for another application, the guy at my hardware store counter popped out the same yellow plastic box stocked with o-rings numbered as I indicated that looked like this:

 

 

Should have read:

 

Directly before I asked for the oring box today for another application, I asked the clerk if they carried metric O-rings. He said no, then popped out the same yellow plastic box stocked with o-rings numbered as I indicated that looked like this:

 

 

 

@ Warmonger:

 

Try the barrel and bucking first. Easiest to troubleshoot and may address the issue in one go. I think you'll be surprised how much air escapes around that bucking. Hold the inner barrel with the bucking on it in your hands, cover the end of the bucking with your index finger and blow into the muzzle end of the inner. That's ALOT of air.

 

You'll see major improvement wrapping the bucking in tape.

 

Also, you got the Wild Monkey gearbox? I had that one and don't remember any weird fitment issues like the one you describe.

Edited May 9, 2006 by Wupjak

[Foukus]

hello, in PGC gearbox can fit any piston or only star piston?

and tappet plate and nozzle are v3?

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I use Deep Fire piston in my PGC gearbox. It work fine. Gearbox inclyde tappet plate and nozzle with it so you don't need to buy them.

[Froggeh]

hey im interested in buying myself a para... just read your review, i must admit i skipped over the pictures, but do you think its well worth it? im only asking as im pretty much a nooby softer barely a yr old

 

and if it is worth it, what other accessories am i gonna have to fork out for?? like probably extra batteries for skirmishes...

 

anyway if you can let me know, many thanks...

 

me

[WarMonger]

THanks, Im almost positive now the air is escaping around the barrel.

 

I have another problem now, ive broke the trigger switch, does anyone know what kind of switch this is and where i might be able to get a new one? Star wont reply to my e-mails.

[Wupjak]

The electrical switch, right?

 

When mine burned out, I replaced it with Classic Army's SAW trigger switch. It's rated for higher amperage, which theoretically would increase resistance and lower rate of fire. However, I didn't notice any of that after installing the new switch.

[DarkLite]

The electrical switch, right? 

 

When mine burned out, I replaced it with Classic Army's SAW trigger switch.  It's rated for higher amperage, which theoretically would increase resistance and lower rate of fire.  However, I didn't notice any of that after installing the new switch.

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Why would being rated for an increased amperage result in a higher resistance?

 

It just means that the component can withstand a higher amperage. The resistance would only go up if you actually had a higher amperage.

[Wupjak]

*begs forgiveness in all matters electrical*

 

Electricity is one of those mumbo jumbo areas for me. if I can't hold it in my hands, I don't understand it. I was applying the little I know to what I read on the switch. My bad.

[WarMonger]

if its rated for higher anmperage, it probably has thicker wires, which would result in more resistance.

 

who sells a classic army replacement?

Edited May 14, 2006 by WarMonger

[Cathious]

I got my para about a week ago. Already dremeled a Area1000 V3 bearing spring guide to fit this gearbox. Has anyone here done any work with getting existing metal CA/TOP M249 parts to fit the STAR?

[DarkLite]

if its rated for higher anmperage, it probably has thicker wires, which would result in more resistance.

 

who sells a classic army replacement?

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WHAT?!?!

 

Thicker wires = LESS RESISTANCE.

 

 

Resistivity of a wire (p) = (RA)/l

 

Derives to:

 

R = p(l/a)

 

So

 

R = Resistance

 

A = cross-sectional area

 

l = length

 

Higher cross sectional area (a) equals LESS resistance.

[ColSanders]

Sooo I just put in a big bid on ebay for a para...

Static how's the CA compare to the Star thus far?

[stevofett]

The Star site shows 249 parts now available!!!! Now someone needs to find who's selling them......

 

Parts include trigger, cocking handle, feed tray cover, front sight, and looks like trigger switch. Prices don't look bad either.....

[Sure Shot]

Their selling them now becuase these parts are breaking so they figure, instead replacing the parts for free their gonna start charging people for them.

They need to start selling metal reinforced or upgraded parts.

Edited May 18, 2006 by Sure Shot

[paradigmsk8er]

ive read through the entirety of the thread, and really appreciate all the conclusions you guys have come to. i plan on picking up a Para, and have already taken note of the boxmag switch problem...but ive found some mixed information about upgraded springs/batteries.

 

 

the plan is to keep everything but the spring stock, im torn between using an 8.4 and a 9.6 with an sp110 spring...am i going to run into reliability issues? would i be better off losing 20 fps and putting the spring guide and stock spring at the "level 2" position?

 

i guess im just worried about shredding somethign internally, because although i can fix things in gearboxes, i much prefer not taking the risk lol

 

 

again thanks for all the help from everyone

[WarMonger]

your right, ive got it all backwards.

 

I still cant get a hold of star, i hope someone starts stocking these parts soon.

Edited May 18, 2006 by WarMonger

[Cathious]

ive read through the entirety of the thread, and really appreciate all the conclusions you guys have come to. i plan on picking up a Para, and have already taken note of the boxmag switch problem...but ive found some mixed information about upgraded springs/batteries.

the plan is to keep everything but the spring stock, im torn between using an 8.4 and a 9.6 with an sp110 spring...am i going to run into reliability issues? would i be better off losing 20 fps and putting the spring guide and stock spring at the "level 2" position?

 

i guess im just worried about shredding somethign internally, because although i can fix things in gearboxes, i much prefer not taking the risk lol

again thanks for all the help from everyone

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Based on what i have seen with mine thus far, a 9.6 and SP110 should be fine in there. However, that being said, i prefer to run mine with an 8.4v, i just don't need the ROF to be any higher and burn through BBs any faster. Just my 2 cents.

[paradigmsk8er]

that was part of my dilemna--if the ROF is so good stock i really would prefer to stick to an 8.4 just *in case*..but thats saying the sp110 wouldnt efffect ROF too much. thanks for the help

[Fodder]

your right, ive got it all backwards.

 

I still cant get a hold of star, i hope someone starts stocking these parts soon.

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If I had to *guess*, WAR4 should be selling the in the near future... they seem to carry a wide variety of stuff (or can get it):

http://www.airsoft-war4.com/

 

Al.

[doc_newstead]

I'd forgotten about this, and I'm glad I found it now as I nearly bought one of these. Rather glad I didn't.