Tinkerton Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 That's a cost thing I'm guessing. I'd love to do it bit don't have several grand disposable to start up Ding ding ding. My dad tried to get me into small bore shooting for a while, little 22 rimfires. Was fun enough but as soon as you start looking at getting your own rifle it gets expensive quickly. I'd love yo have a go shooting clays sometime though, never done it before (only the standard scouts compliment of archery and air rifles ) Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Ammo prices seem excessive over here. I appreciate we don't have loads of factories on British soil churning them in the millions like the US does but still. Surely some massive bulk orders could be made and spread around shops to bring the prices down a bit. Link to post Share on other sites
Lowprofile Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 See this annoys me - although we can shoot, it's really cost prohibitive Link to post Share on other sites
shmook Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Ammo prices seem excessive over here. I appreciate we don't have loads of factories on British soil churning them in the millions like the US does but still. Surely some massive bulk orders could be made and spread around shops to bring the prices down a bit.Why would shops do that though?!! Tink, go clay birding, it's awesome! I'd go every day if I could Edit, a shotgun can be had for not a lot, and ammo is for pennies in comparison to rifle ammo too. Link to post Share on other sites
Azubi Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 I can appreciate the cost aspect. I am finding fullbore pretty expensive on ammo, but rimfire is cheap as chips compared! 6p-ish a shot for .22lr, or 65p-ish a shot for .308. I can have a good few details on Friday night for a tenner at the indoor range. £250 for a second hand, well looked after 10/22 is less than I have spent on decent AEGs. I could pick up a mosin nagant for about the same price too, and then you are only look at 35p a bang with surplus ammo. Link to post Share on other sites
Azubi Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Apparently a local RFD close to me tried placing a 250k round order with Eley, and they were told they couldn't have it because it was all being produced for the Yanks. Eley is a British manufacturer too! Link to post Share on other sites
shmook Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 65p for .308 is actually cheaper than I thought. Do you reload? What sort of cash would you need for a decent 308, along with ancillaries? Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Why would shops do that though?!! Get more people into the sport that are put off by cost. More people shooting, more profit, less chance of shooting disappearing into obscurity/hitting a level where it is not profitable to run a shooting related business. Link to post Share on other sites
Tinkerton Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Where would I find info about clay shooting? If there are any local clubs etc I could bob along to and try my arm at it, I'd love it. Then I could buy myself a nice little CZ shotgun :3 Link to post Share on other sites
shmook Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Get more people into the sport that are put off by cost. More people shooting, more profit, less chance of shooting disappearing into obscurity/hitting a level where it is not profitable to run a shooting related business. I see why they should and agree with you, but most business seems like 'maximum profit now, *badger*s to next week'... Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 I've just been looking at VEPR 12s. But damn our minimum barrel length laws suck. I can stick a suppressor on fine but a sensible SBS barrel? No way. Laaaame. Link to post Share on other sites
shmook Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 24 inch minimum isn't it? And 40 inch overall? Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Yup. Link to post Share on other sites
shmook Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Daft. Not like legit owners would be concealing them in the pub or whatever. Doubly daft because after a days shoot we would just pile ours in the corner of the snug anyway while we sank a few pints, pockets still full of cartridges... Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore1-6 Posted May 15, 2015 Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 Go to a gin tasting, drink all the gin. 6 bottles between 12, then 2 bottles between the four hangers on.Finished about 2, found the host of the night passed out on the bar sofa. Then played a quick 7's tournament while still drunk.Holy *suitcase* am I hungover now. Link to post Share on other sites
Azubi Posted May 15, 2015 Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 65p for .308 is actually cheaper than I thought. Do you reload? What sort of cash would you need for a decent 308, along with ancillaries? That 65p is for factory ammo. I have a couple hundred homebrew stuff that cost around 50p to put together but could probably be done cheaper. Then there is surplus 7.62 NATO that can be had reasonably cheap too. Not ideal for precision stuff, but if your main goal is to make a load noise and put a hole in the black, it's more than good enough. I spent £600 on a S/H nicely shooting .308 with scope, mount and rings all in from a guy at the club. There are quite a few cheaper options (there is a CZ550 with mag and bipod for £400 on gunstar at the moment), but just as much quite a few more expensive options too! You will always get what you pay for, but there are bargains to be had if you look around, and forums provide a wealth of knowledge for cheap and easy improvements to almost any rifle. My next buy is going to be a WW2 rifle of some description, probably a mosin nagant because I've always wanted one. Might take a bit of cleaning, but I can pick one up and my full 7.62x54r allowance on my ticket for less than £400. Link to post Share on other sites
shmook Posted May 15, 2015 Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 Thanks, that's a lot better than I thought actually. Dammit! Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted May 15, 2015 Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 How's this for some work related . I check item A for company A to make sure it's safe for company B. Whilst testing, it fails catastrophically due it being poorly installed, utterly destroying item B with me just about avoiding injury. Company A want to find me partially responsible for the damage...Completely ignoring the fact if it wasn't tested by me, it would have failed when company B used it, perhaps not avoiding injury and opening company A up to a lawsuit. I told them to get *fruitcage*ed. Link to post Share on other sites
Cannonfodder80 Posted May 15, 2015 Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 Weren't the presses for home made ammo banned in the UK? I remember reading something along those lines when the VCRA came in Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted May 15, 2015 Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 Nope. You buy everything you need to make ammo. You're just not allowed to use it to put together a complete round. I was going to buy some manual loaders and components to knock up a few inert rounds but I've gotten around to it. You can get them on Amazon.co.uk Link to post Share on other sites
Pdubyuh Posted May 15, 2015 Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 One of the air bits on one of my trainers has got a puncture, not that bad you say but whenever i walk anywhere i now get step, clomp, step, clomp its really annoying ! Link to post Share on other sites
Azubi Posted May 15, 2015 Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 Reloading is perfectly legal as long as you have the slot on your ticket for whatever it is you make and how much you make. It's considered the best way to achieve greater accuracy for competition, at least, and once you have all the kit then it is a lot cheaper than factory! It's also one of the ways people can use some of the larger pistol calibres indoors, by downloading the cartridge so it is under the limits for the range. Sadly, it costs a fortune to actually get set up and is another hobby in itself. It's handy to have someone in your club that has all the kit and knowledge, and will let you use both. Link to post Share on other sites
Cannonfodder80 Posted May 15, 2015 Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 Thanks guys for clearing that one up for me What's me off today is the attention seeking parasite Katie Hopkins. I know she makes a living by making controversial statements that get people's backs up, but taking the out of a 9 year old child for having learning disabilities is *fruitcage* out of order Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted May 15, 2015 Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 I just put her on my mental ignore list. If everyone else did the same she would soon go away. Link to post Share on other sites
Tinkerton Posted May 15, 2015 Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 Number one rule: don't feed the trolls. Link to post Share on other sites
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