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Why should I be polite to them when they're being very rude trying to talk to me in the first place? And it does make perfect sense. If human nature was to truly help people in those situations, then we wouldn't need this charities now, would we?

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Why should I be polite to them when they're being very rude trying to talk to me in the first place?

 

That's not how it works. You're just being aggressive. All those people were doing was giving up their free time to try to help a charity.

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I do not donate freely to H4H or similar because I feel it is a soldier's choice to join and go to fight. I dont see any charities for professional drivers who get injured doing their jobs

http://www.f2benfund.co.uk/My lihttp://www.brdc.co.uk/Benevolent-Fundnk

 

I do buy a poppy once a year, to show my respect for those who fought for England.

Yeah cos the Scotish, Irish, Canadians, Americans, Indians, Malaysians, Polish, Yugoslavians, Belgians, Boers, New Zealanders, Dutch, Czech, Australians and everyone else who fought all fought for England...

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I find it quite presumptuous of them to assume that some starving kids or rare animals or whatever is more important than what I'm up to in town that day.

 

 

On the whole, I'm not really doing anything important at any point, but I resent the assumption.

 

 

Also, if I'm walking around with headphones on, I generally don't want to be bothered. Take the hint.

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That's not how it works. You're just being aggressive. All those people were doing was giving up their free time to try to help a charity.

I doubt it was their free time. Fundraising is a very well paid job. That girl was probably on a good £8.50 per hour. They actually expect to only get 4 sign-ups a day.

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I have to agree with getting annoyed by the bucket shaking charity collectors, but I find telling them you've already donated to their mate up the road tends to shut them up quickly.

 

Mind you the best responce I gave was to a Socialist Worker bloke trying to get me to sign an anti war petition. For a giggle I told him stopping the war would really damage my business as I was an arms dealer. Don't think he actually believed me but he didn't say another word, just walked off mumbling under his breath and obviously not happy

 

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That's not how it works. You're just being aggressive. All those people were doing was giving up their free time to try to help a charity.

I'm not being aggressive, I'm being dismissive. Which is more rude, me just trying to go about my daily business or some jumped up hippy trying to get me to part with what little money I have (which just plain isn't enough to live on) for some high-minded charity which won't make much of a difference anyway? Like I said, lovely sentiment, but not one I agree with. You'll get more support if you just leave me alone than bugging me whilst I'm just trying to sign on.

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I always say "Sorry, don't have the time" when ever some one trys to stop me in the street regarding a charity etc. If they persist, ignore them, as you have already told them in a very polite way to leave you alone.

 

Rant of the day, weak bin bags. I hate them.

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I always say "Sorry, don't have the time" when ever some one trys to stop me in the street regarding a charity etc.

I mostly go for "Sorry, don't have the time.", if they are particularly aggressive/block my path/have already asked me/look at me wrong they get "Sorry, I don't speak English" - usually goes down very well.

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Regarding charity girls, I was once on my way to a dinner with a rather tasty blonde I'd met in the park the day before when a hipster girl in a charity t-shirt asked me if I had any time.

 

Now, my usual response is to say "Sorry, I'm a student and I don't have any money to spare."

 

Which, being as I am a student, with no money to spare, is actually true.

 

However, this time I am on the way to a date. Hence, I am wearing a nice pair of jeans, a tailored shirt, a silver waistcoat and a pair of leather loafers. To top it off, I'm also wearing a set of Bolle sunglasses. She looks at me with the "uh huh" look that we all reserve for lying bastards.

 

"I only dress rich to impress girls!" I say. "Does it work?"

 

She laughs, says "Yes!", and gives me her phone number. :D

 

Though the tasty blonde found her number when the piece of paper it was written on fell out of my jeans the next morning. She didn't stay for breakfast. XD

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My friend used to do this.

 

They're actually technically 'self -employed' as such they don't get paid a wage (but they don't give a toss about the charity either). They do it for the money just like everyone else.

He used to sell for the Red Cross and for every £120 subscription he sold, he got £40 of it.

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Wales: A country.

 

 

 

No. Never has been. Principality of England since countries existed. Thems our bitches yo.

 

Also, I'm sure there is some sort of truckers charity, but the difference between a truckers job and a soldiers job is enormous. Soldiers dedicate their lives to each other and people they've never met, have people ACTIVELY trying to kill them on a daily basis. Truckers drive. They do it for money, nobody is trying to kill them ( since they're the deadliest thing on the roads).

 

Help For Heroes exists because the soldiers aren't looked after properly. It doesn't give a flying *suitcase* about what war we're in, why we're in it, or anything like that. I appreciate you're all "it's not our problem" about Afghan and Iraq, but don't drag politics into charity, especially not one like H4H. It's not like they supply more fighting soldiers to one side or the other, they help British citizens wounded whilst in service. End of.

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The only problem I have with Help for Heroes is that they don't really do anything that SSAFA and BLESMA didn't already do other than have a catchier name.

 

They do however add more bureaucracy to the process of handing out the money.

 

No dramas really but I prefer to give to BLESMA and SSAFA.

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Why should I be polite to them when they're being very rude trying to talk to me in the first place? And it does make perfect sense. If human nature was to truly help people in those situations, then we wouldn't need this charities now, would we?

 

You're chatting *suitcase*.

 

Firstly, if its human nature not to help, why are there charities? There are countless examples of how people help each other, and I'm sure if you can really think, you can find a few which you have experienced.

 

Secondly, you could of just been polite, or you could atleast made the point about how you take issue with the way the money is spent and where exactly it goes. But you didn't.

 

You probably think reading a bit of Nietzsche makes you a badass, right?

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My wife goes every year to Lourdes, to look after disbaled and elderly people who go on a pilgrimage for a week. She pays for her flight and hotel etc, to look after people. She does not get paid for it, she does it out of the kindness of her heart. Most poeple think she's mad for doing it, but she just shrugs it off.

 

I think that if someone is rude to you, then you have the right to pull them up on it. Lead by example and let the person being rude to you know, how they are being rude to you. Some people don't realise their tone of voice is confrontational or aggressive sometimes and as such I always give them the benefit of the doubt. If they persist, then give them a mouth full, free of swear words of course.

 

Edit:- Rant. Two injured servicemen where there this year and when the presist asked for a round of applause for them, a youth member refused to clap which I thought was very bad taste. It was during a speech about people being brave, whilst dealing with a disability (He clapped for the others but not when the preist asked for a round of applause for the two service men).

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The only problem I have with Help for Heroes is that they don't really do anything that SSAFA and BLESMA didn't already do other than have a catchier name.

 

They do however add more bureaucracy to the process of handing out the money.

 

No dramas really but I prefer to give to BLESMA and SSAFA.

 

 

I've been saying this ever since HfH was set up. The people who founded it have a noble goal, but they would have got more money where it was needed by helping the numerous service charities already in existance than by setting up a competing organisation. However, by whatever methods, they have somehow seemed to become THE charity that everyone thinks to donate to in order to help the forces. Never mind that the RBL has been helping serving and ex-servicepersons for nearly 80 years, and other charities have been doing good work for many, many years as well.

 

Gets my goat, a bit. <_<

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The people who use vehicles to make a living.

Like race car drivers...

 

And stop referring to Britain as England. You're as bad as the bloody yanks...

 

 

:P

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I stated later that I was referring to professional drivers as in truck, taxi, bus etc drivers. The people who use vehicles to make a living.

 

Yeah the roads are hell mate. Guy I know got PTSD after being stuck on the m25 for 2 hours. Also, his mate paid for the olympic breakfast at little chef, but they were running low on stock so he had to settle for the early starter. Scandal.

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Like race car drivers...

 

And stop referring to Britain as England. You're as bad as the bloody yanks...

 

 

:P

 

England is a country. My country. You can give up your nationality if you want, but I wont :P Problem is, the racist ****s who have hijacked the national flag for their own filthy agenda.

 

And as for charities for pro drivers... how about crashes? Work related injuries? I'm not saying there SHOULD be one, I was using it as an example :P

 

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And yes, Wales IS a country. They even have a national assembly: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Assembly_for_Wales

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Your nationality is British. Check your passport.

 

He is also English, in the same way that the Scotch are Scottish and the Welsh are Welsh.

 

England is still a country, therefore people born here can still call them selves English if they want.

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He is also English, in the same way that the Scotch are Scottish and the Welsh are Welsh.

 

England is still a country, therefore people born here can still call them selves English if they want.

 

While that is true as far as it goes, it has no more meaning than being born in Derbyshire, or Yorkshire. Yes, you're from there. You're British. The Welsh are British, the Scottish are British. Exactly the same as people from Texas, Utah, New York and Alaska are all American. They're still from wherever they are from, but that's not their nationality.

 

One country - the UK. One nationality - British. The rest is the past. England, Wales, Scotland aren't separate countries, and they haven't been for a long, long time. Longer than there has even BEEN a USA. It's long past time people joined the 21st Century and got over this petty small-minded BS. Countries change. Nations change. They joing together to form new, larger countries. That's progress. Sometimes they split apart into smaller, weaker ones. That's going backwards. Carry on down that road and you end up back at City-States and Tribes and things.

 

To move forward as a race of humans, as a world, we should be trying to form larger communities, not split apart ones that have already been united. :waggle:

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